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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

First time live food culture

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16 Apr 2011 23:17 #1 by Jim (Jim Lawlor)
Can anyone recommend a live-food for someone culturing it for the first time?

What the best in terms of nutrition and ease of setup & maintenance?

In thinking particularly of something that cant escape and be found where its not supposed to be (thus resulting in the sale of all my tanks!). Does that rule out microworms etc?

How do you start off with something like this - can you buy a starter culture or eggs or stock?

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17 Apr 2011 00:43 - 17 Apr 2011 00:47 #2 by platty252 (Darren Dalton)
Hi Jim.

Probably the easiest to start with is microworms. They dont go rambling around the house.

I use an instant potato mix (for mash get smash). Mix in a tub with tap water untill it has a consistency that is not runny nor thick.
I make it between 1-3cm deep. It dosent have to be exact.

Add the culture of worms and place a lid on it will some small holes for air to get in. Or you can just leave the lid on lose.

After a few days the worms will cover to whole top of the media. Then i place a small square of kitchen towel at one end directly on top of the culture.
The worms wriggle through the towel on to the surface of it and in the process clean themselves of the potato mix media.
This makes it handy to collect them. I simply scrape a plastic spoon across the towel to collect thousands in one scoop.

Most media mixes contain oatmeal. My problem with this is it stinks. The potato mix works just as well and only gives of a very slight starchy aroma.

A culture will last 1-2 months before renewing. This takes about 10 minutes.

As for the nutritional value, i cant remember, but i can check if you wish.
What i do know is it works well at getting small fry past the early days untill i can get them on to larger foods. Even fish 2-3cm long will take them.
Just use a bare bottom tank for fry. The worms will stay wriggling on the base attracting the fish.

Another bonus is they last at least 2 weeks in water without dieing off. So no fowling the water with uneaten rotting food.

If you want a starter culture i will bring some to one of the meetings.
Also i have some good literature on various live foods that you can borrow if you wish.

White and grindle worms are also very easy to culture.
Last edit: 17 Apr 2011 00:47 by platty252 (Darren Dalton). Reason: sprellings

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17 Apr 2011 01:37 #3 by joey (joe watson)
for bigger fish cherry shrimp are easy as pie to breed, and will only need a small tank and air filter (so long as its somewhere warm you might not need a heater)

or you could use earthworms in something like a kids sandbox full with compost, put a big flat stone on top somewhere and throw in veg trim for food every now and again. when you want to collect just lift the stone, take the worms you need and purge them on wet kitchen paper overnight to empty the crud out their guts

@platy: how would you cultivate white worms and where could one get a starter colony?

Location: Portlaoise, Midlands

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17 Apr 2011 01:43 #4 by dar (darren curry)
root through these fantastic articles www.irishfishkeepers.com/index.php/artic...51-foods-and-feeding. outstanding work by puddler

Check out the angling section, it is fantastic

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17 Apr 2011 07:57 - 17 Apr 2011 07:58 #5 by stretnik (stretnik)
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how would you cultivate white worms




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17 Apr 2011 08:50 #6 by Andrew (Andrew Taaffe)
Hi Joey
I have whiteworms, I think arabu73 also has some, get in touch and I'll get a starter pack ready for you
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see the ITFS tab above for more information www.irishfishkeepers.com/index.php/itfs

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17 Apr 2011 10:12 #7 by bart (Bart Korfanty)
hi all
i have white worms as well if anyone wants

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19 Apr 2011 22:30 #8 by Jim (Jim Lawlor)
Thanks folks for all the advice.

@stretnik - interesting vid - the University of Youtube - a great institution!

@dar - thanks for that - plenty of reading in there for more

@platty252 - thanks Darren - that's excellent - I'll definitely take a donation from you if thats OK

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19 Apr 2011 22:45 #9 by JohnH (John)
Jim,
Another option worth trying (I use them myself) would be the Freshwater Shrimps (Gammarus sp) which you will find amongst the plants in any unpolluted drain, stream or pond.
I get mine from Lough Derg and keep them in buckets of water outdoors.
Here is a link to an excellent article about them from goggle:

www.torrens.org.uk/NatHist/Aqua/Gammarus.html

John

Location:
N. Tipp

We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl - year after year.


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It's a long way to Tipperary.

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20 Apr 2011 02:52 #10 by platty252 (Darren Dalton)

Thanks folks for all the advice.
@platty252 - thanks Darren - that's excellent - I'll definitely take a donation from you if thats OK


No problem Jim. Just say where and when.
I can also give you some gammarus to culture Like john mrntionrd.

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21 Apr 2011 12:48 #11 by Jim (Jim Lawlor)
Awesome Darren - many thanks.

This is why I love this forum - so many of the members are entirely selfless nad more concerned with helping other fishkeepers than with any personal gain or upmanship

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