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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

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04 Jun 2013 09:52 - 09 Jun 2013 20:23 #1 by irish-zx10r (James feenan)
I am working on a Diy job for my pond and have a uv light setup the light is 15w
what size pond will this work in will i need a stronger uv light for 10,000 gallon pond?

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05 Jun 2013 18:51 #2 by CrustyCrab (Peter Biddulph)
15 w won't be strong enough, a Blagdon 36W Pro UV Clarifier PC is for 32,400L And you are on 10000 gallons.
That's a nice pond. Jealous I am

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06 Jun 2013 17:22 #3 by irish-zx10r (James feenan)
I should be able to get a bigger light here is what I have for a DIY job








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06 Jun 2013 17:25 #4 by irish-zx10r (James feenan)
The drum is a 120L sealed drum that was used for Ro water I was going to make filter out this

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09 Jun 2013 20:24 - 28 Jun 2013 19:11 #5 by irish-zx10r (James feenan)
Here is what i have in mind can anyone tell me if i am going in the right direction and where should i setup the uv light ?

api.photoshop.com/v1.0/accounts/c8049692...jpg?md=1370809175000

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24 Jun 2013 23:30 #6 by irish-zx10r (James feenan)












Anyone know where I can get bio balls and filters or what's your taught's on what I should put in the skipper filter

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25 Jun 2013 08:42 #7 by Homer (Kevin)
One big thing you will need to consider is a Net over the Pond, Leaves and Ponds are bad Bed Fellows.

H.

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It's NOT "Chee lick", NOT "Chee Chee Licks"!!! Cichlids is pronounced as "Sick Lids"!!!!!

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25 Jun 2013 09:36 #8 by irish-zx10r (James feenan)
Thanks for the advice I will be very health and safety with the young kids so a wire mesh and net will be used I still hope to have it looking good thanks for the advice

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25 Jun 2013 11:27 #9 by irish-zx10r (James feenan)
Would super glue be good enough for holding the pipes together inside the barrel ?

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25 Jun 2013 11:49 #10 by davey_c (dave clarke)
I'd use wavin cement lad but if its in the filter it wouldn't need gluing unless they were falling apart.
Sorry if I dampen your expectations but unless that pond is dug to china it doesn't look 10, 000 gallons.

Below tank is for sale

my plywood tank build.

www.irishfishkeepers.com/index.php/forum...k-build-diary#137768

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25 Jun 2013 11:54 #11 by irish-zx10r (James feenan)
I was given this size from another site it's 4m long and 3 m wide 4ft deep

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25 Jun 2013 12:59 #12 by Q_Comets (Declan Chambers)
Looks closer to 10000L than gallons may change your filter and UV requirements a bit

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25 Jun 2013 13:09 #13 by irish-zx10r (James feenan)

Looks closer to 10000L than gallons may change your filter and UV requirements a bit


Sorry its 10,000L and not gallon lol it's not a lake by any means the uv filter is a easy fix would the 120L filter barrel not be big enough?

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25 Jun 2013 13:21 #14 by CrustyCrab (Peter Biddulph)
With 10000L then the original UV would be ok.
120L Filter would be fine. Get some bulk foam, medium and corse, some Zeolite Rocks, and alfagrog pond filter media.

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25 Jun 2013 13:22 #15 by dave000000 (D H)
4m x 3m x 4m = 48,000l or 10560uk gallons

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25 Jun 2013 13:33 #16 by CrustyCrab (Peter Biddulph)
4m x 3m x 4 feet (1.2m) = 14,400L
Is your pond 4m or 4feet (1.2m) deep?

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25 Jun 2013 14:39 #17 by irish-zx10r (James feenan)

With 10000L then the original UV would be ok.
120L Filter would be fine. Get some bulk foam, medium and corse, some Zeolite Rocks, and alfagrog pond filter media.


Where is the best place to get these ? It's work in progress and I have only spent €4 happy days :)
I can see a few problems but with time and more info I get there.
It's about 4 ft
I can't fill it right to the top because of a rip on the liner but there is a good lot of water and its only to home about 6 fish from my cold water fish tank. What pump should I use ? I have a small otter 100 and the other pump is massive don't know what it was used for from before.

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25 Jun 2013 15:19 #18 by CrustyCrab (Peter Biddulph)
Any good Garden Center will have the foams, many of the sponsors too.
The Zeolite and Alfagrog might have to be ordered. If you only have a few fish, you can leave out the zeolite.
You can use chopped up garden hose, etc as media too.
The 100 pump should do for now, no need for a huge flow with the large filter volume you have, and only a few fish.
Most pint pumps will be on sale come end of September so keep an eye out.
There are some patching products about for liner, have a google. Some are rubbish, so check for reviews.
Love how you camouflaged your filter.

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25 Jun 2013 16:37 #19 by irish-zx10r (James feenan)
I have been lucky everything has been recycled and taken from a skip in work.
Even the camouflage was from a old broken fence.
Would this work for a filter


I also have stuff like flos

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25 Jun 2013 16:42 #20 by CrustyCrab (Peter Biddulph)
Food safe foam is perfect

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25 Jun 2013 16:49 #21 by irish-zx10r (James feenan)

Food safe foam is perfect


Us that last photo food safe never heard of that before.

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25 Jun 2013 17:52 #22 by CrustyCrab (Peter Biddulph)
It contains no fire retardants or germicides (be careful with low-cost air filter foam —it can be toxic!)

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28 Jun 2013 09:29 #23 by irish-zx10r (James feenan)
This is a rough idea on what I tried with the pump in the pond the first problem is the pump does not seem to be strong enough to pump the water up to the top of the skipper filter. Anyone know what pump I should get or does anyone have one I could buy?


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29 Jun 2013 06:21 - 29 Jun 2013 06:31 #24 by wylam (Stuart Sexton)
If the pump is not strong enough to pump to the top of the filter is there any way you can sink the filter? ie, dig a big hole and sit the filter into it, the closer the top of your filter is to the water level the less pressure on the pump.

For the filter media in my filter i used cut up garden hose, some 2inch pipe chopped up and a big reel of fishing gut that i had lying in the shed. Abd a load of normal filter foam like this stuff,

www.amazon.co.uk/Finest-Filters-12-15mm-...s=pond+filter+sponge

fairly cheap too.

stuart.

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29 Jun 2013 14:47 #25 by irish-zx10r (James feenan)
The pump is a otter 100 I think it's only fit to be used as a fountain.

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10 Jul 2013 10:13 #26 by irish-zx10r (James feenan)
Can clear polythene sheet for a polytunnel be used as pond liner? or would it be to light? i have seen the sheet and it looks very good and strong whats your opinion ? Looks like when i was on night shift something got into the pond and ripped some of the pond liner beyond repair. if this would work could i clean out the pond and use the polytunnel sheet over the pond liner that is all ready there?

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10 Jul 2013 17:52 - 10 Jul 2013 17:55 #27 by wylam (Stuart Sexton)
I dont think that would work man. even when used as poly tunnel it has to be changed every 2 years.I think you can get repair patches for pond linings might be best to look in to it. pond liners are made usually from a type of butyl rubber , it is able to flex and stretch and return to its shape.The plastic would not do this and in a short time it would just crack.

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10 Jul 2013 18:12 #28 by irish-zx10r (James feenan)
i think i will have to go to a plan b
not having much luck the summer will be over again this is finished
thanks for the advice i keep working away and hopefully luck will turn my way soon.

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11 Jul 2013 06:44 #29 by paulv (paul vickers)
my x boss built a duck pond a few years back and he used lean mix concrete as a liner, just mix it semi dry and plastered it on the pond sides, it was more work but will last a life time, or ian in aquatic village does pond liner on a roll and can cut the size u need. as for pumps im using a velda eco stream 4000 in a large tank as return pump with a 1.4 meter head, going tru 2 1inch pipes and its doing a good job, not huge pressure but a constant strong flow back to the tank. just one observation i made looking at your first pic, the trees over hanging the pond may cause u trouble in the winter with leaf fall. building a koi and sturgeon pond is a dream of mine so im very interested in how you get on. best of luck with it.

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11 Jul 2013 07:31 #30 by wylam (Stuart Sexton)
Just one thing for Paulv.As far as i know any concrete/cement product needs to be treated/painted before it is suitable for fish.

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