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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

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16 Oct 2014 08:44 #1 by irish-zx10r (James feenan)
Has anyone kept butterkoferi cichlids
I been reading about them but I like to get first hand experienxe. I know they grow hugh. What can they mix with ? Even though they are from Africa it looks like some mix them with american cichlids what's your taught.
Options 6ft tank with big haps peacocks and big Malawi cichlids
Option two 5ft x2 x 27inch tank with central and south america cichlids.
The pair of butterkoferi cichlids are around 10 inches in size. Any help or advice will be great.
Thanks
Irish-zx10r

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16 Oct 2014 15:19 #2 by Ski (Alan McGee)
I've had one in with other aggressive American cichlids and was fine. Great personable fish. Not sure how a pair would go though

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16 Oct 2014 17:42 #3 by irish-zx10r (James feenan)
Do they eat other fish ? From my Reading they are aggressive again other big fish but I don't see much about them and smaller 5 to 6 inch fish

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16 Oct 2014 19:48 #4 by davey_c (dave clarke)
Are they a breedin pair? If they are i'd imagine they would go through anything in the tank so it would be recommended not to mix whereas if their not breedin i'd imagine it would be fine against cichlids that could hold up.
Ian in AV has a large tank overstocked with a mix of africans, c/a, s/a along with 1 of the above and it hasn't touched another.... so as always it will depend on the temperment of the individual fish

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16 Oct 2014 20:01 #5 by irish-zx10r (James feenan)

Are they a breedin pair? If they are i'd imagine they would go through anything in the tank so it would be recommended not to mix whereas if their not breedin i'd imagine it would be fine against cichlids that could hold up.
Ian in AV has a large tank overstocked with a mix of africans, c/a, s/a along with 1 of the above and it hasn't touched another.... so as always it will depend on the temperment of the individual fish

When it comes to mixing fish Ian has the answer it can be done and he has done it :laugh:
I been told they are a breeding pair maybe i could keep one in Sa setup and one in african setup
Then down the line when all my fish are bigger and able to hold there own i could put them in together.
Anyone else have any options or ideas?

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08 Dec 2014 11:46 #6 by irish-zx10r (James feenan)
Anyone know the tank size for breeding two of these i cant find the site for fish adviser and tank size

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08 Dec 2014 16:11 #7 by derek (Derek Doyle)
these are thought to be among the most agressive of all cichlids and as they are moluscivores (snails) they can do a lot of damage with their bite.
I have only ever seen large specimens kept singly and these would regularly attack the glass (with great power) if anyone approached the tank.
Having said that, there is not that much really known about them, as their rep. keeps most people from trying them, so it would be interesting to hear how you get on with this pair. Males were much larger in any of the specimens that I have seen.
They had a bit of popularity in the 80s, as the attractive striped pattern in tiny specimens appealed to some, who added them to community tanks with predictable results.

30 tanks specialise in african cichlids, angelfish and various catfish

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08 Dec 2014 16:31 #8 by irish-zx10r (James feenan)
I could be wrong but i taught i seen one in the show tank in aquatic village i dont want to bring bad luck on myself i have them mixed in 6ft tank with malawi cichlids haps and peacocks my pair are aggressive to each other when i do water change when they chase the other fish out of there areas they are like a bull and charge with there heads all my fish know not to mess with them. And Stay Out Of There area i will do new video tonight.

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11 Dec 2014 21:29 #9 by irish-zx10r (James feenan)
I been very lucky with these, but i hope to move them soon into a tank of there own soon for breeding


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03 Apr 2015 10:24 #10 by Robbied12 (Robbie Duffy)
Mate had one and it broke his heart,he had to divide his tank and eventually he gave it away only a few weeks ago and I see it now on done deal,I've kept a lot of agressive cichlids but never as mental as these fellas!
Altho if u had a spare big tank they are a class fish to keep as they have great personality and are ultra aggressive feeders.

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03 Apr 2015 18:59 #11 by irish-zx10r (James feenan)

Mate had one and it broke his heart,he had to divide his tank and eventually he gave it away only a few weeks ago and I see it now on done deal,I've kept a lot of agressive cichlids but never as mental as these fellas!
Altho if u had a spare big tank they are a class fish to keep as they have great personality and are ultra aggressive feeders.


I seen that one robbied12 but i wouldn't add another to my tank.
its strange i keep mine with loads of african cichlids peacocks and haps i find them fun to watch they are like cat and dog chasing each other round the tank, then a little malawi cichlid will nip one on the tale and he goes chasing the smaller fish. The smaller fish have the advantage of hiding in the rocks so the butterkoferi cant so much after few minutes they ware each other out and just go back one each side of the tank here is a video from few weeks ago.


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05 Apr 2015 17:30 #12 by Robbied12 (Robbie Duffy)
That's the craziest fish I've ever seen lol,what is te big blue African that's just above the butterfoki at the end of the video

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06 Apr 2015 19:59 #13 by Robbied12 (Robbie Duffy)
It's a cool set up,they are a fish if like to keep some day but no sign I me getting a bigger tank il be divorced

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