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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

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12 Aug 2008 21:38 - 12 Aug 2008 21:40 #1 by BenEadir (John Murray)
Hi all,

I've only been a fish keeper for 4 months but mad into it now and my Cichlid tank is coming on great, or at least it was until I went on holiday a few weeks ago.

I left a digital feeder set to deliver just the right amount of food twice a day, 9am and 7pm. A 'helpful' friend who was house sitting while we were away misunderstood when I said the fish were automatically being fed morning and night and thought I was asking her to feed them morning and night whilst we were away. You can imagine the amount of food they got being fed 4 times a day for two weeks, a full container of food which would normally last 6 weeks at least had been fed to them in two weeks.

Fortunatley none were dead although most of them looked seriously bloated!! I immediately took away their food for a few days, did a 50% water change and cleaned out all the waste that had accumulated at the bottom of the tank.

Since then I've noticed each week when I do a water change that Nitrate is reading 40 wiwth Ammonia 0, Nitrite 0 and PH 8. It doesn't seem to matter whether I do a water change 2 days or two weeks later the readings are still the same and although I was a little worried that Nitrate always seemed to be high I didn't think it was doing any harm until last night when a previously healthy looking fish died.

Can anyone shed any light on this? Is 40 Nitrate with 0 Ammonia and 0 Nitrite a common set of readings for a stablised tank and the fish just died and would have likely died anyway or is the high Nitrate likely to have been the cause and thus the rest of the tank is also at risk?

Has anyone any suggestions other than daily water changes?

Regards,

Ben
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12 Aug 2008 22:47 #2 by adamireland (Adam Jackson)
Ben,

What were the readings of NitrAte before the holiday?

keeping up water changes will help you a lot.. your filter is playing catch up at the moment as its bio load had a dramatic increase..

feed normally as a mature filter will adjust.. the water changes are the best you can do.. NitrAte at 40 is ok on short term exposure but long term will stress and damage your fish..

I would change water with 50% prepared water every day until you see the drop in NitrAtes.. (when i say prepared, i mean heated, aged water) also monitor any Ammonia and NitrIte spikes over the next weeks..

unless you see any other fish heading down hill keep that going.. IMO

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13 Aug 2008 08:09 #3 by BenEadir (John Murray)
Adam,

Thanks for the advice. I don't have the ability to prepare 200l of water in advance but will do more frequent water changes and hopefully things will revert to normal levels.

What should I expect Nitrate levels to be over the long term? They were usually around 20 after a week prior to going on holiday.

Regards,

Ben

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13 Aug 2008 08:36 #4 by adamireland (Adam Jackson)
Ben would you mind giving me a list of fish kept and equipment used.. maybe even a photo or 2.. and 20 is fine.. anything between 0-30 is ok but IMO 30 is too high.

The more info i have the better chance of helping.. :)

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13 Aug 2008 16:11 #5 by BenEadir (John Murray)
Adam,

I have a 1500mm long x 500mm wide x 600mm high 450L tank sitting on a purpose built cabinet. It's got a Tetra Tec Ex 1200 External filter and a 400 U. V. sterilizer, a Tetra Tec 300 w heater, T 5 Lighting unit and Coral sand and rock (70 kg's). You can see a picture and pictures of some of the fish at this link www.irishfishkeepers.com/cms/component/o...imit,10/limitstart,0

Have about 34 fish now. 29 Malawi Cichlids of the various sorts in the pictures, 3 Tangs I'm not sure the names of and two juvenille rusty Plecos.

I guess something must be going well as we've had two instances of 'holding' and currently there are 3 fry hiding out amonsgt the rock. There also seems to be another one of the orange guys holding at the moment and I'm taking that as a good sign that conditions are usually OK in the tank.

I know I should use the proper names for them but I just can't get my head around the formal names!!

Ben

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