speed set up

should be safe enough with 12. i thought i would have been able to see their brown line though. have you heard of any succesful breeders

can't say i have paddy they've only been on sale twice since i started working there and no one has come back saying they had but thats not to say it cant be done!

ill see you on friday. thanks fr the help

They will breed once they are well fed but the fry are tiny. I keep small fish so i am used to small fry but these are ridiculously small. You would need rotafirs ( spelling)or smaller sized live food to start them off.
Paddy you would probably have a good grasp of this with the wee horsies.

yeah, shouldnt be a prob. hopefully i will suceed with this one. thanks again platty

im off that day but sure eric and the other lads will be there:)

Reefpaddy i had a look through some of my books for the info on tank setup's for raising young seahorses. But the info wasn't in any of them so i must have read it somewhere on the net.
All i can remember is; a square tank, airline in each corner but i cant remember if they were all on at the same time or switched 1,2,3,4. or 1+2,3+4 etc.
I know the idea was to keep the young in suspension and to stop them getting stuck at the surface.
If i remember anything else i will let you know.

yeah mate ,thats the aim of the game is to keep as many getting stuck to the top lair of scum on your tank possible, its like super glue to the little ponnies.they end up breeding the air which either makes them floaters or even worse kills them. but as ive said that dosent seem to be my prob.i believe, for real sucess you would need a properly designed seahorse fry tank as i have reached large quantidies past a month and been lucy if even one lasted the term. the water quality has to be perfect. and realistically the fry should be fed once every 2 hours with copods,rotifers and armidia(not sure of the pronunciation} or whatever tere called ,during daylight.

keelan in sea horse aquariums is ssuceeding with on average prob 80-9o percent (which is prob why he won so many awards).
when i do try ,he supplies my foood and gives me as much support as possible, but realisticly i need a brreeding tank to get them up to 3 months as this is the age they are ready to deal with a home aquarium.
i do think i would have been much more sucessfull if i had of had more time to raise them, i couldnt controll the water quallity as much as i should have ther4 the water quality was not good. i dont think the tank was fully cycled yet either. i think two fairly strong air pumps with regular cleaning of the sponge's and constant sifeling of the foor of the tank(being very carefull not to siefell any ponies up) also 10 percent waterchanges daily ( which streeses the ponies out) so possibly doing more bad than good sometimes,but it is the best opption without a frytank and probably a viable concept if time and energy is available.

so, i have came to the conclusion not to create any more death.
untill i am able to dedicate more time to this, i will not be keeping males, i am sure i will sucessfully breed large quantidiys on a large scale one day, as its always been an ambition of mine since i got familiar with sea.h to have a tank with a rediculous amount in it maybe 50 or so. easily achived if your bredding your own but to buy would cost you between €2500-4000

Sounds like you pretty much have i sussed. As you say having the time is a big factor.

how are we looking for friday sb87? will ya have twelve of the little fellas for me

i'll make sure they are put on the order paddy if they have them in stock we'll have them in for wednesday ill let you know what happens

n1 mate.fingers crossed

right ordered 20 so if they come in ill PM you

my pygmy setup is complete, im delighted with it 20 pygmy ,2 cats and 2 loach i think their loach.
the pygmys are tiny but i believe they reach their full size quite quickly. just want to say thanks to every1 for your help. sb87 nice one for making the order. this site is a god send.

Reefpaddy have you any pics of ur setup? I was thinking of setting up my own after i have my new community tank cycled and fish in only have a 54l but not gonna get 20:ohmy: was tinkin maybe 4 or 5 would be great if you could pass on a tips about snails, feeding and the tank set wotz required any help would be great.

I think ive got the fish keeping bug only at it 4 months and i want more ha.... its always bigger and better.

im only learning about these little guys myself although many years ago i kept large fresh/brackish spotted and dog faced,more recently i also kept marine unicorn and porcupine. the marine used to mill mysis shrimp and a few snails. the freshwater puffs i just fed snails.
i hope i can get these little fellas to take bloodworms im going to try them with mices in a few mins as the 1 thing i forgot today was bloodworms i have loads of different types of food in the house and they shouldnt really be fed so soon in anyway. worse comes to worse ill buy live food down in seahorse aquariums. ill post a pic but you cant really see them as they are all hiding in the plants and the rest are staying fairly close to the bottom and their tiny aswell, cant wait till they grow a bit.one things for sure they are aggresive little shits they are nipping the crap out of one another. i got 5 good sized plants not planted yet as i hadnt enough gravel, i think ill buy another 4 so theres addaquit hiding places.
they are best kept on there own as they will take down bigger fish nipping, im going to add bog wood tomorrow also. a good friend of mine wreckins i should have no probs and he knows his shit.
i once seen a tank with about 200 of them in a 250-300 litre i paris aquarium, it looked super ever since its been in the back of my mind and i know she loves puffers so i might just get away with the third tank wish me luck shes back on sun.little does she know i want another little nano tank for my seahorses and use the 400l for a predator tank. lionfish stone fish ray, file fish maybe even a moray ell and of corse a nice few large tangs. or if anyone wants to make me an offer on the seahose tank includes skimmer, externell pump ,lr,powerheads ect. i would exchange for a smaller nano with everything built into the back,or a sump would be nice,giz a shout if anybodys intrested.

a few out of the plants

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hey paddy glad you got your little puffers lookin good!

no problem at all!

if your stuck for some bloodworm tonight let me know

I wanted to put a pair into my community thank which is 180l but not sure now..... its gonna be well planted might chance my arm at it and watch them and if they start attacking the other fish il put them into my 54l.

The only thing im worried about is snails dont no were ill come across ones small enough for them which snails are you feeding urs.

they'll eat bloodworm too al

Ive no problem getting that its just for the snails for thier teeth coz they are so small thats the only thing puttin me of getting some.

Do you think id get away with a pair in a 180l community tank?

you should be able to get small snails we have them in our tanks they come in on plants and infest all the tanks so its fairly handy havin them as puffer food!

i dunno i wouldn't put them in my 180 my angels would be driven mad by them haha

yeah i was kinda thinkin they would go for any type of fish i have. Well its just another reason for me to tell the misses we need to keep the 54l tank and say well its gonna have small cute little puffer fish in it they can be urs ha ha ha ha

I think that might work....... so i was thinkin of around 6 to 8 little puffers they should have enough room in the 54l?

thanks mate but i already got some bloodworms of eric today . never taught of asking for you.c u next time.
my mate gave me some bog wood that was in the tank when he owned it. he never cleaned his tank for months on end and also left it outside in his garden if i give this a good scrub now, will it be safe to put into the tank strait away as shes home tomorrow and i want it complete

Not sure? how long has it been out there? you may have to boil it in water coz it could turn ur water brown plus could have all sorts growin in and on it i would just put it in the tank without boilin it.