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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

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26 Jul 2011 20:19 #1 by igmillichip (ian millichip)
Typical isn't it. :)

I see a choc gourami eyeing up the 'local' interest.

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26 Jul 2011 21:07 #2 by andrewo (andrew)
such a pity; i wld attempt a rescue as its a case of between the devil and the deep blue sea B)

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26 Jul 2011 22:23 #3 by Gedas (Gediminas Derkintis)
That is very nice when fish start breeding.But can you block half aquarium to save fry?


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26 Jul 2011 22:49 #4 by igmillichip (ian millichip)
I bet when you stop it be a community that they stop spawning......had that happen loads of times.

Yesterday I moved one pair of honey gouramis into a tank with small discus and hatchets just whilst I'm changing tanks around.....and the pair went mad breeding: hatchet fish loved the action on the surface of the water. :)

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27 Jul 2011 10:03 #5 by wastegate (Joseph Farrell)
Very nice Chris, Be nice to see them make it B)

You know you're addicted to fishkeeping when...you spend €200 to accomodate a €5 fish.

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27 Jul 2011 17:06 #6 by Zoom (Zoom)
Very nice Chris, I wouldn't do anything yet if they are happy spawning there leave them until they allow the fry to feed from their sides then see how long the fry last some times they wont allow the fry to feed so no point in moving them until they master that, but your half way there they haven't ate the fry yet. Like Ian said you could move them and they will stop spawning it takes them awhile to settle back down and be comfortable in their tank after been moved, so the more experience they gain now the better.

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08 Mar 2012 11:15 #7 by BillG (Bill Gray)
congrats on the new fry :) its great when they prove the theories wrong like that.
Hopefully some of them survive for you

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08 Mar 2012 11:50 #8 by ghart (Greg Hart)
Congrats on the Discus fry. Nice videos.
They do need to be separated from the community as in my tank the Rummynose tetras dart in and eat the fry when the discus parents are not close by. :angry:

Keep us updated on the fry progress.

Greg

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08 Mar 2012 13:23 #9 by paulcavan (Paul Gileoold)
Congrats chris well done

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08 Mar 2012 14:26 #10 by davey_c (dave clarke)
excellent work chris, keep the updates comming :cool:

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my plywood tank build.

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08 Mar 2012 21:17 #11 by Melander (Andreas Melander)
I must have missed this thread, as I do...

Congrats on the spawns Chris and thanks for sharing the videos!

Hopefully the parents are learning and feel secure enough that the little ones will live on this time, keep us posted!

Melander

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09 Mar 2012 09:59 #12 by igmillichip (ian millichip)
The Brown discus looks super by the way. If it were me breeding these, then I'd be hoping to have loads of babies that looked like the Brown discus (but even if they did, they the babies offspring would not produce as many browns).

Sometimes, you get to see some great behaviour when you leave fish to breed in a community tank.....and not just from the breeding fish, but from others as well.

Croaking and chocolate gouramis are demons for super speed in diving in to get fry off others (butter would not melt in their mouths, but they show themselves to be real predators when fry are around).

I've watched harems of emperor tetras work as team with a leader in grabbing eggs and fry off big angels and the like. Emperor tetras appear to be one of more intelligent tetras: it would take a very good set of parents to fend off emperors.

Keep us updated, and see what colours you get in the fry. The mottled parent simply throws in many unknowns in genetics at this stage....they may be unraveled when you see the colours in the fry.

ian

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09 Mar 2012 11:42 #13 by igmillichip (ian millichip)
I think that a well thought out community tank is excellent for discus with a carefully selected group of co-habitants.

There are times when a specimen discus might be simply too aggressive to keep with other fish though.

I keep discus in 'pair-only', 'species-only' and in mixed community tanks. And have done that for 40 years.

People often say that discus are 'boring'. They are far from it....they are cichlids, and they show cichlid behaviour.
Discus are not like chameleons in being loners (chameleons get stressed when they see anything else that is not food); much of their natural behaviour is a reflection that the fish are used to being surrounded by other species of fish and other discus. If it weren't then discus would not have such an advanced behaviour.

I had a pairing-off a few years ago in a discus/cardinal tetra community tank that actually fooled me somewhat.
There was a pair of discus (male and female) who would always hang around together and push all other fish away.
One day there were eggs on the internal filter, and the same 'pair' where in their usual stance of hanging-out and pushing everyone else around. So, I was going to remove all other fish when suddenly I noticed something....... the female always hanging around with the male doing all the bullying was not actually the female who had laid the eggs (she did not have her sex organs clearly showing, and was not doing anything to look after the eggs directly). The female who had actually laid the eggs (she had her sex organs clearly showing) was being kept segregated in a corner.
If I hadn't double checked, then I could have separated the fish leaving the wrong 'pair'. Anyway, with only the real parents left in the tank both took to looking after the eggs.....but they are crap parents and too aggressive to be with any other fish nowadays.

Funny old fish really.

@Draco...so with that little anecdote....back to your story...

ian

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