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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

Gills (flukes or something else)

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10 Nov 2014 15:06 #1 by Discus-Killester (Sinisa)
Hi guys,

I've met another discus keeper yesterday.

He has group of large discus (17-20cm), maybe 10 of them...

They look good, eating well (that's what he said) etc... He said he used to breed them, but fry always died, they start dying 3-4 every day, until they are all gone :(

He said, guy from local fish shop told him IT MUST BE GILL FLUKES (that guy never kept discus, but he said it's most common thing) and sold him different stuff to treat them, but nothing helped!

He tried WaterLife product last, no luck...

Now, I've noticed that all his large discus (possibly) have infected gills. They look swollen, opening too wide etc... As I said, they are very big, it doesn't seem to affect them at all, but maybe they pass it to fry and they die.

Anyone here that would know what to do?

Anyone that was breeding discus & fry got some dissese from parents?

Did onybody ewer have a large (aduld) discus that had gill flukes (or something on gills, swallen etc) and what medication would work?

I also went on Stendker website, and they say they don't medicate their fish at all! :dry: Never! :unsure: Hmm...

I'll write an email to them too, when I get a chance...

Any product, any treatment, anything?

Thanks

Sina

ps. I took few pics of large discus, but it's not really visiable, hard to see swallen gills on the photos... Might attach them anyway...

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10 Nov 2014 15:17 #2 by Darkslice (Stephen Walsh)
sorry sina, i cant help you there

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10 Nov 2014 16:31 #3 by Miamiheat (Stephane Lemaire)
I read hundreds of threads about Discus fry dying and the first explanation and the easiest is tank not clean enough and lack of "proper" water changes. Second explanation was being in denial of the above :laugh:
Also perhaps he is doing something in his maintenance routine that is "tolerated" by adults but killing fry: using unsuitable tap water, wrong temperature in water change, high difference in PH.
It could be a lot of things. But first i'd say he needs to get the test kit out and review each step of his maintenance routine, even the most insignificant.
Secondly it is really the parents transmitting something to the fry perhaps treats the whole tank as a quarantine for a a few weeks and apply treatments for worms, flukes and other diseases in sequence but respecting the instructions on the meds.

=> if the tank and filter are infected with something it could also be necessary to bleach everything and setup the tank again.

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10 Nov 2014 18:41 - 10 Nov 2014 18:44 #4 by Joekinsella (joe Kinsella)
Agree with Miami Heat I was thinking more along the lines of the temperature difference with the fresh water during the change.

It may help to bring an ill (still living fish) up to aquatic village in Brittas as he can exam them under a microscope he helped me out greatly before so I would recommend that your friend consults Ian I think his title on the forum is iancompto

Location: Clogherboy Navan.
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10 Nov 2014 20:13 #5 by Gonefishy (Brian oneill)

Hi guys,

I've met another discus keeper yesterday.

He has group of large discus (17-20cm), maybe 10 of them...

They look good, eating well (that's what he said) etc... He said he used to breed them, but fry always died, they start dying 3-4 every day, until they are all gone :(

He said, guy from local fish shop told him IT MUST BE GILL FLUKES (that guy never kept discus, but he said it's most common thing) and sold him different stuff to treat them, but nothing helped!

He tried WaterLife product last, no luck...

Now, I've noticed that all his large discus (possibly) have infected gills. They look swollen, opening too wide etc... As I said, they are very big, it doesn't seem to affect them at all, but maybe they pass it to fry and they die.

Anyone here that would know what to do?

Anyone that was breeding discus & fry got some dissese from parents?

Did onybody ewer have a large (aduld) discus that had gill flukes (or something on gills, swallen etc) and what medication would work?

I also went on Stendker website, and they say they don't medicate their fish at all! :dry: Never! :unsure: Hmm...

I'll write an email to them too, when I get a chance...

Any product, any treatment, anything?

Thanks

Sina

ps. I took few pics of large discus, but it's not really visiable, hard to see swallen gills on the photos... Might attach them anyway...

If it was gill fluke in the parent, you would see the fish flashing off objects in the tank and darting sideways against things to 'scratch' the gills so to speak. If it is fluke, kusuri wormer plus or praziquantel will do the trick. Can't comment on the fry but wormer plus is well tolerated, even with fry I believe....I'd need to grab the packet and have a read but I'm almost certain.

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11 Nov 2014 14:51 #6 by Discus-Killester (Sinisa)
Hi guys,

I told him everything I new about raising fry, he is NOT into breeding any more, he keeps them in a large tank, they spawn sometimes, but he is not breeding them any more...

My question was : Is there anything that can be done for those extra large (probably good few years old) discus, that have swollen gills?

It didn't look like it's affecting them in any way, but gills look big, swollen, wide open? I've heard some keepers would use scissors and cut the swollen part off???

Is there any medication for it?

Thanks

Sina

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11 Nov 2014 15:50 #7 by Joekinsella (joe Kinsella)
Taking a scissors to a fishes gills is asking for trouble. Ammonia affects gills has he checked water parameters? Can't offer advice on medicating as I have not experienced that before.

Location: Clogherboy Navan.

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20 Nov 2014 21:39 #8 by djomla (M T)
Stendker brothers say salt salt and more salt
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