Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)
Hi,
John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.
I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.
With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.
I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.
If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.
I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.
I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.
Thank you
Darragh Sherwin
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- Darkslice (Stephen Walsh)
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What has been your ESB bill for the last 2 cold months?
I was shocked at mine when it hit over €400.
But then again im running a large dehumidifier 24x7 until my aquarium lid arrives.
(plus my last bill was an estimate)
I have to run 3 x 300 watt heaters.....
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tumble dryer and immersion used few mornings this drives the bill shy high.
Something fishie going on here
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Mine is about the same...i blame the clothes dryer
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What are your bills normally ?
Check the rates they charge and how much you use.
Theyre the true values, they control the total.
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Guess I could plug in the watt meter again....
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I only have one five foot marine tank and a two foot marine tank with a total of '19' plugs for both
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How long can your marine tank be down ?
You need to check your standing charge and unit charge and if going prepay you might have another charge by them.
If you take the wattage rating of all your appliances then you can determine where the bill is coming from.
The heaters are the only guess work as they don't run for 24hrs, they go on and off as required.
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I've been led to believe that running an aquarium is actually pretty cheap, the initial outlay not withstanding. Filters, pumps and air pumps are generally low wattage and should cost so little that, frankly, you could pay for them every month with the change in your pocket. Wattage for lighting is usually a good deal higher, but they don't run constantly like a filter and unless you're running a planted tank, in alot of cases they could be on for less time. As JustinK pointed out, heaters are the only ones that are hard to pin down. How long they're on will depend on not only how hot your setup runs, but also how warm/cold the general environment you have them is. I have three of my four tanks running either without heaters or heaters set so low that they rarely need to come on. And I have two small kids in the house most of the time, so it's usually pretty warm. To be honest, keeping your family warm through the winter is far more costly than the fish. Cookers, ovens, dryers, power showers, emersion heaters etc. are going to cost you far more. Heating stuff isn't cheap, so I'd imagine keeping tanks at what is really just a few degrees above room temperature doesn't add to much to the bill.
The way I was told to work out the cost is this....
Look at the wattage of the device and divide by 1000 to get the kilowattage.
Look at your bill to find out how much you're charged per kilowatt hour.
Multiply that by your kilowattage to get how many cents an hour or costs you.
Divide by 100 to convert that to €.
Now multiply by however many hours it runs to see how much it costs a day, then by 365 for the whole year.
Now, consider yourself fully armed in any dispute with the missus over how much your "hobby" is costing her!
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I'll add my two cents here...
I've been led to believe that running an aquarium is actually pretty cheap, the initial outlay not withstanding. Filters, pumps and air pumps are generally low wattage and should cost so little that, frankly, you could pay for them every month with the change in your pocket. Wattage for lighting is usually a good deal higher, but they don't run constantly like a filter and unless you're running a planted tank, in alot of cases they could be on for less time. As JustinK pointed out, heaters are the only ones that are hard to pin down. How long they're on will depend on not only how hot your setup runs, but also how warm/cold the general environment you have them is. I have three of my four tanks running either without heaters or heaters set so low that they rarely need to come on. And I have two small kids in the house most of the time, so it's usually pretty warm. To be honest, keeping your family warm through the winter is far more costly than the fish. Cookers, ovens, dryers, power showers, emersion heaters etc. are going to cost you far more. Heating stuff isn't cheap, so I'd imagine keeping tanks at what is really just a few degrees above room temperature doesn't add to much to the bill.
The way I was told to work out the cost is this....
Look at the wattage of the device and divide by 1000 to get the kilowattage.
Look at your bill to find out how much you're charged per kilowatt hour.
Multiply that by your kilowattage to get how many cents an hour or costs you.
Divide by 100 to convert that to €.
Now multiply by however many hours it runs to see how much it costs a day, then by 365 for the whole year.
Now, consider yourself fully armed in any dispute with the missus over how much your "hobby" is costing her!
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