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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

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19 Mar 2014 20:43 #1 by anthonyd (Anthony Debesne)
Hi guys
Found my blue ram guarding eggs tonight.
Bought them on sunday so it is a bit of a surprise.
I breed shrimps but never bred fishes before.
What kind of care or food do i need to provide the babies with ?
Thanks
Anthony

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20 Mar 2014 01:27 #2 by m_sb (Zac)
Hello,
Congrats!!
I guess these few thing you can start with newly hatch brim shrimp hatching process is on Youtube or boil an egg and desolved its cooked yolk in the water it will produce yellowish liquid and its a initial food of babies fry as well..... also their parent guard their own babies so you don''t need to worry about them they will look after them all
Cheers enjoy

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20 Mar 2014 01:34 #3 by JohnH (John)
Sorry Anthony - I missed this earlier.
Firstly congratulations on having the Rams spawn.
You really don't want to be offering any food until the fry have hatched and are fully free-swimming.
You can buy prepared fry food from your local shop, or feed newly-hatched brineshrimps or - and here comes a big plug for JoeMc's enterprise - send to him for a culture of Microworms, if they're anything like the ones he sent me you'll be able to feed the fry from day one.
Don't be too disappointed if the first couple of brrods fail - either from predation by one or both of the parents. It sometimes takes them a few 'gos' before they get the hang of what they're supposed to be doing and that the eggs aren't for their breakfast!

Maybe, one you have some viable fry you could add some snaps?

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20 Mar 2014 19:11 #4 by anthonyd (Anthony Debesne)
thanks guys.
I bought a microworm cuture from joemc this week, my fishes love it.
For the fry, we will see how it goes but it is already amazing to see the attention and care the parents are providing.
i took a video of the parents on my phone, will see if i can put it on the website. :hammer:
regards
Anthony

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20 Mar 2014 19:22 #5 by anthonyd (Anthony Debesne)
here is the in for the video.

are they laying eggs and fertilizing them or just faning them ?
thanks

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21 Mar 2014 11:49 #6 by JohnH (John)
In your video they're still in the process of laying and fertilizing the eggs, Anthony.
If possible try to provide a small amount of light to allow the parents the ability to keep an eye on 'nighttime' egg predators.
What's the latest news?
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21 Mar 2014 13:07 #7 by anthonyd (Anthony Debesne)
They are still minding the eggs.
I tried to remove the apisto female in the video but couldnt catch her and
I m afraid i will stress the parents If i keep trying.
Anthony

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21 Mar 2014 13:16 #8 by JohnH (John)
Good news still, Anthony,
The parents should be able to protect the eggs until the fry are free-swimming, after then the problems could arise where more adventurous ones stray from the 'flock' and are less easy to protect - it's these ones which sometimes fall prey to 'intruders'.
The main dangers to eggs are fish like plecos (especially) and Corys too and since these are often at their most busy after dark this was the reason the low light source was suggested.
Here's hoping some survive for you.

John

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21 Mar 2014 14:39 #9 by ABdarudeone (Mick)
Hi and congrats ,
Great fish deadly the way they look after the eggs -my rosy barbs ate most of theirs when they bred - i only managed to find 3 babies after .
Nice looking tank btw.

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21 Mar 2014 20:01 #10 by anthonyd (Anthony Debesne)
Sadly the eggs were gone when i came back home tonight and found one of my corydoras habrosus dead 1 centimetre away from were the eggs were laid. It might be a coincidence.
Anyway tested the water and did a pwc.
I might get more lucky next time.
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Anthony

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21 Mar 2014 21:13 #11 by Stem12 (Stephen M)
Hey mate, Firstly congrats on the spawn and sorry for the loss, Both the eggs and the cory,
Secondly, What leafs are those in the tank?> I like them..
Cheers and hopefully you get a future batch of eggs..

S.

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21 Mar 2014 22:07 #12 by anthonyd (Anthony Debesne)
Thanks stem 12.
They are beech leaves, ideal size for nanos and free !
Anthony

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22 Mar 2014 00:58 #13 by JohnH (John)

Sadly the eggs were gone when i came back home tonight and found one of my corydoras habrosus dead 1 centimetre away from were the eggs were laid. It might be a coincidence.
Anyway tested the water and did a pwc.
I might get more lucky next time.
Thanks
Anthony


That might be less of a coincidence than you might think.
Rams' aggression seems to go far beyond their size.
I recall some years ago I had a pair of wild rams spawn on the top of a cave, in which lived a Zebra Pleco - L-046.
Anyway the male attacked that poor fish who - after all was said and done - lived inside it.
The upshot was most unfortunate as the battering it got was such that, even though I thought I had rescued it, sadly it died. A most distressing tale, I'm sure you'll agree - but what I'm trying to illustrate is the fact that - as mentioned - rams are pretty diligent parents and can 'punch well above their weight' when the need arises.
Is there any chance you might be able to set up a smaller tank dedicated to just the pair?

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22 Mar 2014 08:17 #14 by anthonyd (Anthony Debesne)
I have a tank cycled, i was going to put blue bolt shrimps in it but i will put the rams instread just have to change the substrate first.
I never saw them showing aggressivity towards the dwarf corys it was only towards the female dwarf apisto.
But it might be a different story when the lights were off.
Thanks
Anthony

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