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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

What to keep together

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21 Jul 2009 10:46 #1 by nonie (leonie troy)
Can I keep rams, aspistos, keyholes and kribs in the same tank?

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21 Jul 2009 11:22 #2 by JohnH (John)
You could try - but expect a 'fish-version' of WWIII.
Seriously though - unless you have a large tank, densely-planted (and even then it would be extremely doubtful) don't even think about it.
There might be a small degree of 'species tolerance' at first, but once they find their feet (fins?) all hell would, I suggest, break loose.
But at the end of the day, it's your tank - try it and see...but it's not something I would attempt.

John

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We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl - year after year.


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21 Jul 2009 12:11 #3 by nonie (leonie troy)
Ok so what would you recommend - would a few of the above be ok or should it be one to one tank?

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21 Jul 2009 12:22 - 21 Jul 2009 12:23 #4 by alkiely (alan kiely)
Depending on the size of ur tank you can have a pair of keyholes, a pair of rams and a pair of aspitos.

I know people who have there tank like that and they have no problems.

Tank is 180l well planted tank
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21 Jul 2009 13:20 #5 by nonie (leonie troy)
I guess there is an exception to every rule in this hobby. I just dont want the fish to suffer because of my stupidity or lack of knowledge.

I am gonna stick my head into the lfs on the way home. Will keep you posted.

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21 Jul 2009 14:36 #6 by JohnH (John)
There you go, another opinion - nice to see it when it comes from first-hand experience and not from that gleaned from other sites, anyone could go onto Google or the like for answers.
Forums (Fora???) like this exist to allow members to share their experiences - sadly this isn't always the case.

:o(

You don't say what size your tank is?

John

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21 Jul 2009 15:10 #7 by alkiely (alan kiely)
All depends on tank size. 180l well planted you might get away 3 pairs, 100l say only 2pairs

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21 Jul 2009 16:25 #8 by sheag35 (Seamus Gillespie)
duzzy1 has 4 keyholes, some apisto. borelli, apisto aggaissi, apisto mcmasteri rams and kribs all in the same tank with no probs... Prob just depends on the fishes personalities.. Hopefully he'll see this post and tell you himself

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21 Jul 2009 16:57 #9 by mrsFishpatrick (Astrid Fitzpatrick)
I have apistogramma caca 1m 3F, a pair of keyholes and a single female kribensis in a tank, so far no breeding, but I haven't lost hope.
The keyholes are very gentle fish and don't bother the apisto's.
The kribensis is a leftover of some fry that was born in november (if you want her you are welcome to her)
My tank is a 180L(3ft) and medium planted

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21 Jul 2009 20:07 #10 by duzzy1 (Martin Kennedy)
i guess alot of ppl would call the mixture in my tank a smill bit over the top ... but i have keyholes , apistogramma agassizzi , apisto borelli , apisto macmasterii , kribensis , brown acara ( wc ) , angels and even a pair of hoplo catfish all in together at the moment ...... and not a bother in the world on any of them ...

i guess it depends on the individual fish personalities ... but i always try to provedi plenty of caves and hiding places for them all

hope this helps

martin

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22 Jul 2009 07:55 #11 by nonie (leonie troy)
Cheers thank you for your help. I think I will start out with 2 of the above and see how they go.

I have a 90l planted tank - with a few tetra.

I was in the lfs last night and there were very little dwarf cichlids, I could not get a pair of anything i wanted.

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22 Jul 2009 13:41 #12 by scubadim (scubadim)
Replied by scubadim (scubadim) on topic Re:What to keep together
Hi there,
like everyone says,if you have enough hiding places and plants so that these fish are not in constant visual contact there shouldn't be much trouble.
Saying this,there's not much that could handle the motherly protective instinct of a female krib:unsure: ,they can turn into little devils around their fry.
to widen your list,sajiicas are nice as well as rainbow cichlid(herotilapia multispinosa)...
all d best with your project:)
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22 Jul 2009 15:36 #13 by derek (Derek Doyle)
sajica and rainbows are central american and would be tougher than your other choices and like harder water.
i would suggest the s american keyholes apistos and altispinosa rams should be ok together. kribs not really suitable and ramerizi too delicate.

30 tanks specialise in african cichlids, angelfish and various catfish

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