Synodontis Euptera Catfish

I have been trying to get a better photo to see if anyone can tell me if this
Synodontis euptera Catfish needs treatment for ich - a parasitic infestation.
If it does have ich what should I do? Can the fish be treated in the same tank or will I need to move him to another tank for treatment?



Admin if this photo is to large can you re-size or let me know if this size photo is ok for this site.
Thanks

If it is ich then in all likelihood... other fish in the tank will also have to be treated...

Adding salt to the aquarium and raising the temperature gradually to 30 deg C should do the job for you...

There was a thread on this a few ago and igmillichip (ian) had done a small writeup...

Tigger wrote:

If it is ich then in all likelihood... other fish in the tank will also have to be treated...

Adding salt to the aquarium and raising the temperature gradually to 30 deg C should do the job for you...

There was a thread on this a few ago and igmillichip (ian) had done a small writeup...

What salt should I use and would it be any harm if I used it anyway just to be on the safe side ?

It all depends on what other fish you have in the tank. I had dosed my own tank with salt. A synodontis who didn't have ich was in the tank(other fish did have ich). He is still around.
Some fish are sensitive to salt.

I used 1 tablespoon of regular sea salt (not free flow) per 5 gallons of water. Have a read of this:
www.yamatogreen.com/salt.htm

Safer option:
You could try using eSHa Exit as a medication instead of the salt. Artane Aquatics stock eSHa products.

Either way please put up the temp to 30 deg C.

I can't get the salt till I am off work on Thursday should I turn up the temp to 30deg c now ?
Here is the stock with the Synodontis euptera Catfish
1 black Molly fish
1 silver Molly fish
1 gibbicep Pleco
1 Pterygoplichthys pardalis Pleco
2 angelfish
1 Bala shark
2 red tail black sharks
2 serpae tetra fish
4 zebra Danio
6 Penguin Tetra

I'd recommend going for the eSHa Exit with an increase in temperature.

Before adding the medication.......wipe around all internal cormers and edges of the tank, clean areas where grot is likely to be harboured, rinse the filters and media in water from the tank.

Then do a partial water change (and use a gravel cleaner if you have one).

Increase the temperature, and then add the eSHa Exit (as directed on the bottle).

Increase the aeration or water movement in the tank.

The medication does not kill the parasite whilst it is on the fish.....it needs to leave the fish first. The increase in temp will speed up the life-cycle of the parasite.

The parasite also needs a stationary phase before it re-infects fish.....hence the reason for cleaning corners and increasing water movement in the tank.

Then it is simply a mater of waiting for the medication to do its bit.

ian

igmillichip wrote:

I'd recommend going for the eSHa Exit with an increase in temperature.

Before adding the medication.......wipe around all internal cormers and edges of the tank, clean areas where grot is likely to be harboured, rinse the filters and media in water from the tank.

Then do a partial water change (and use a gravel cleaner if you have one).

Increase the temperature, and then add the eSHa Exit (as directed on the bottle).

Increase the aeration or water movement in the tank.

The medication does not kill the parasite whilst it is on the fish.....it needs to leave the fish first. The increase in temp will speed up the life-cycle of the parasite.

The parasite also needs a stationary phase before it re-infects fish.....hence the reason for cleaning corners and increasing water movement in the tank.

Then it is simply a mater of waiting for the medication to do its bit.

ian

Does it take long to work ? Will i see much of a difference in the fish and could some of my other fish in this tank have ich ? sorry for so many questions and thanks for all the help.

The speed of it acting will depend on how fast the parasite leaves the fish and enters the water.
Even when the fish is "clear", it does not mean the parasite has gone from the tank....hence why there are directions on different products tell you how long to leave the medicine in the water.

I would treat the whole tank rather than taking one fish out and treating it.
Other fish may not show any signs as their immunity may be strong enough to deal with it.

After the treatment period as recommended on the pack, do a partial water change and keep the inside corners of the tank clean.

If it appears again, then dose again.

Don't introduce any new fish for the next few weeks.

ian

igmillichip wrote:

The speed of it acting will depend on how fast the parasite leaves the fish and enters the water.
Even when the fish is "clear", it does not mean the parasite has gone from the tank....hence why there are directions on different products tell you how long to leave the medicine in the water.

I would treat the whole tank rather than taking one fish out and treating it.
Other fish may not show any signs as their immunity may be strong enough to deal with it.

After the treatment period as recommended on the pack, do a partial water change and keep the inside corners of the tank clean.

If it appears again, then dose again.

Don't introduce any new fish for the next few weeks.

ian

Thanks Ian
I will start the treatment Thursday

Does this look like Ich ? The area I am worried about is the white mark around the fin

Update on my Synodontis euptera Catfish, at first i taught my catfish had Ich but after reading on the way a tank should be setup i decided to change around the layout of the tank, i removed some ornaments and added a few plastic plants. I also used a ornament that looked like a cave and put it into the tank, since i maid all these changes the Synodontis euptera Catfish has changed into a beautyfull healthy fish with all the marks gone from his body and he has put on some weight. i am not sure what to do next so if you have any suggestions it be great. should i put him up for sale and if so how much would i get.

hi irish, i have 3 of these feather fin cats in my 400l tank. they always entertain me, active all day and one even tickles the under belly on my 18inch tiger shovel nose cat, they'r the clowns of my tank. as you already made a better tank for him/her why think about selling it, they are worth about 20euro for a really good one, so my suggestion is to keep it and enjoy its great character.

paulv wrote:

hi irish, i have 3 of these feather fin cats in my 400l tank. they always entertain me, active all day and one even tickles the under belly on my 18inch tiger shovel nose cat, they'r the clowns of my tank. as you already made a better tank for him/her why think about selling it, they are worth about 20euro for a really good one, so my suggestion is to keep it and enjoy its great character.

The tank it's in is only 110 ltr but it has plenty of space to swim around and looks happy around the other small fish I was only thinking about selling him if the tank was to small. I will upgrade to a big tank soon. What do you feed yours ?

my biggest is 8/9 inchs, so thats about the max they grow to.mine will eat almost anything i put in the tank but they love blood worms and sinking cat fish pellets, they also eat any algae in the tank.im guessing 110l is the min u need. theres lots of good second hand tanks out there of any size so scaling up is easy. gud luck with the catfish,