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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

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27 May 2013 23:44 #1 by m_sb (Zac)
Hello guys,
My Bristol nose pleco breed and saw almost 10 fry in open space might be more as there is plenty of room to hide they are almost 1 inch in size so i presume they just came out from cave but few days old so wondering does other fish are interested in eating them or they are fine and can grow up in my same community tank please note that there is only one Big Jumbo Angel Male and one Female Jumbo discus is in the tank only apart from my two female and one male of bristol nose please advice me
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28 May 2013 00:09 #2 by JohnH (John)
Replied by JohnH (John) on topic Bristol Nose Pleco Fry
If the fry are an inch long they are at least three weeks old, possibly more.
Both your Angel and your Discus could be a danger - but a one-inch Ancistrus is just about too large to be manageable for even them.
And anyway, if they have lived long enough to reach an inch in size my guess is that they are too big now to be eaten.
Ancistrus have quite spiny gill covers for protection and would prove difficult to be eaten, so I think they should well be safe from predation now.

The parents won't attempt to eat them either.

Can anyone else advise m_sb?

John

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28 May 2013 00:22 - 28 May 2013 00:28 #3 by m_sb (Zac)
Replied by m_sb (Zac) on topic Bristol Nose Pleco Fry
Thanks John,
P.S.
my pleco female looks in few days or week will lay eggs again male doesn't leave the cave and sorry the fry is almost half inch not one inch. i shutdown my filter and using air bubble so i see most of them going in the filter and living there so should i remove filter please note that its note running its just the place for them to hide
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28 May 2013 00:44 #4 by JohnH (John)
Replied by JohnH (John) on topic Bristol Nose Pleco Fry
Yes, is the short answer, you should leave the filter in - even if it isn't working - to provide a safe haven for your babies. At only a half-inch long they could well fall prey to the larger predators so will need places to hide. They are quite vulnerable still at that size.

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28 May 2013 10:03 #5 by Melander (Andreas Melander)
Hi and congrats on the spawn,

Agree with everything John said.

Bristlenose fry are at that size are quite well developed and capable of hiding away so most likely some will survive, saying that the angel and discus will hunt them. If you want to maximize fry survival in the future it’s better to move them (or the dad with the eggs before hatching) as otherwise quite a few will succumb to predation. Doing that leads to other problems though as raising large numbers of Ancistrus takes space, it’s also allot less work to leave them as they are.

If I were you I would leave them in the tank and see how it goes, and if they spawned once they will do it again so you could always plan something for the next one if you want.

Melander

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28 May 2013 16:48 #6 by m_sb (Zac)
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Thank you to both of you , its very helpful

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03 Jun 2013 23:50 #7 by m_sb (Zac)
Replied by m_sb (Zac) on topic Bristol Nose Pleco Fry
Hi Guys,
I had 20 fry and most of them was got eaten so i saved only 8 in different tank, now my female was fat again and i setup a new tank for them but male wasn't going in the cave and female got more fat and finally today she died :( so was wondering what i did wrong i saw video on youtube and male goes into cave str8 away so now i only left one male and one female and if anyone have any extra female bristolnose pleco then i would like to take that
please advice me what i did wrong and yes my tank size was almost 40L and water was getting dirty every day so was chaning water 70% every day with cholorine remover drops in it, there was heater and bubble maker for water conditioning was running in my breeding tank please advice me

thx

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04 Jun 2013 11:50 #8 by Melander (Andreas Melander)
Very sorry to hear about your loss.

40 litre for three adult Ancistrus seem very small to me, and you should not have to do 70% water changes daily if the filtration is working. What is your water parameters, could you have had an ammonia crash?

Were the filter seeded in your main tank?

I sometimes use a 70 litre for two bns with a 600 litre/h power head plus a very large sponge and still have to keep up the water changes.
Would be interesting to hear from someone else but I have a feeling it was the water rather than that the female could not release the reggs that killed her.

An other option that i often do is to keep them in the main tank and only move the male, cave & eggs once the spawn has taken place or even only the eggs (don't do this myself).

Best of luck, Andreas

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04 Jun 2013 13:23 #9 by m_sb (Zac)
Replied by m_sb (Zac) on topic Bristol Nose Pleco Fry
its normal tap water never checked parameter myself once i check with the shop so he says ph7 and every thing alright with cholorine in water so i was putting just cholorine remover according to ratio of water and there was no filter running it was normal airpump airstone bubbles running in it

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04 Jun 2013 15:01 #10 by Melander (Andreas Melander)
The breeding tank will need a separate filter, preferably seeded in your main tank, I would put the pair back in the main tank for now.

When it comes to filter for this purpose I prefer power heads with a sponge as they provide flow and a large surface for bacteria to grow on which also provides extra food for new born fish.

40 litres is even with over filtration too small for the adults i.m.o..

Andreas

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04 Jun 2013 17:01 #11 by m_sb (Zac)
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thx for the help

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