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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

Controversy personal attacks vendettas+Arapiama

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14 Mar 2011 12:08 #31 by ipcompto (Ian Compton)
Hi there ok lets put it this way 4-6" fish starting point 15 -20yrs to reach maturity....recession famine and pestilence will kill us before the fishes welfare becomes a problem...importing a 10 foot specimen is ludicrous and if i was to try that then you have my permission to kill me.....i will research the spec and logistics of the project dont u worry ...i would like to see a little more support from enthusiasts....that would be nice..
IAn

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14 Mar 2011 12:09 #32 by ipcompto (Ian Compton)
:) i intend at least to use a pitcher or at the very least a pint glass....
IAn

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14 Mar 2011 13:10 #33 by igmillichip (ian millichip)

Could you scale that down for me please? By that I mean could you give me the equivalent scale for a neon tetra. For example if this 6,000 litre pond is 12 foot long and this fish grows to 6 foot that would be the same as keeping a 1 inch neon in a 2 inch tank.

It might help people to see what the conditions are for such a big fish, in dimensions we can all get our head around.

Thanks.


It doesn’t quite work like that, there is no simple scaling down of fish to tank sizes.

I’m sure a 12 kilometer long hose pipe would hold 6000 litres of water…. But you’d have problems fitting a goldfish in that (even if you built scaffolding to hold the hose pipe vertically…and without kinks, and a getting a filter in it would be murder).

In this hypothetical example of 12 foot diameter 4 foot deep pond, the major problem you’d be up against when it comes to immediate fish health is if it were in the open exposed to sunlight.
(Technology can readily supply a sufficient filtration system…..so that is not going to be a concern unless someone is being scabby with the money.)

At only 4 foot deep, the light has a particular affect on Arapaima whereby their white blood cells start to be over-produced in reaction to certain wavelengths of sunlight.
That would be paramount to inducing a stressor, and it is something that outdoor shallow pond fish farms are experiencing in the tropics.

I guess, however, that AV is not planning on having the fish outdoors in our overly hot winters.

But, really I’m sure that such questions of the ability and practicalities on housing big fish should be on their own thread….. because items that, let’s face it, may or may not be seen as attacks on persons are not getting us anywhere either way.

If I sound like I’m being a democratic liberal (not the party political sort), then maybe I am.

Ian (a different ian, that is)

Irish Tropical Fish Society (ITFS) Member.

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14 Mar 2011 16:29 #34 by joey (joe watson)
does this fish get 6' or 3m? christ that means the housing of it as an adult would need to be around 20m long at least, and 5m wide, around 2-3m deep as IMG says the deeper the better

i think the best bet is buying a local swimming pool and converting it at least there's the filtration capabilities and heating (plus you could use the chlorine dosing tanks as med dosers)

good luck AV if this goes ahead, i visit the shop anyway so would love to see these if they come in - saw a robson green extreme fishing programme on them (he's a nob tho) and my god they are more beautiful and fascinating more so than the asian arowana

Location: Portlaoise, Midlands

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