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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

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02 Sep 2011 22:41 #1 by ceech (Desmond Gaynor)
What type of money would 5 L046 vf and 2 F1 cost in ireland ? There are 10 fry also f1 with these fish.
I am just curious too see :-)
I have been offered a breeding group and considering if they are worth the money.
I wont state how much as it may affect peoples answers but if ya wanna know how much just pm me and i will say .
Thanks again:-)

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02 Sep 2011 23:00 #2 by Acara (Dave Walters)
Saw some advertised in the North a few weeks ago,there was 4 aged from 6 to 18mths,and he was selloing the complete set-up,a Juwel Rekord 800 with Eheim external,and various bits and pieces for £450. He said he would sell the fish at £100ea.
Try www.aquarist-classifieds.co.uk/ ,that will give you a rough idea of UK prices,as there'd be more trading of them there.
Nice enough looking fish,but very shy and boring,if I paid that much for a fish,I'd at least want to see it once in a while :cheer:

always on the lookout for interesting corys.pm me if you know off any!

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02 Sep 2011 23:15 #3 by ceech (Desmond Gaynor)
It aint to look at :-) they make big money here so they do :-) for fry never mind adults!!!

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03 Sep 2011 05:49 #4 by sheag35 (Seamus Gillespie)
in germany you can get fry at 70 each adults a lot more just as a guide

Fishkeeping the Only way to get wet and wild

currently 25 tanks, and breeding is the aim of everything i keep
location:Limerick

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03 Sep 2011 06:15 #5 by ceech (Desmond Gaynor)
Ya as i expected it is more expensive here to buy them :hammer:

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03 Sep 2011 07:51 #6 by sheag35 (Seamus Gillespie)
If they are true wilds and adults and obviously breeding defo Buy em if u can afford to, breed em and bring some fry back here for us poor neglected fishkeepers I for one will be at the top of that queue
Seamus

Fishkeeping the Only way to get wet and wild

currently 25 tanks, and breeding is the aim of everything i keep
location:Limerick

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03 Sep 2011 12:12 - 03 Sep 2011 12:13 #7 by ceech (Desmond Gaynor)
If i do seamus i will see if it is possible to bring some to ireland for you when i come home ;-)
But i want to make sure i can get them to ireland all good and healthy i would hate to bring them all that way and them die.
i know that over here they sell better than beer :-) and norwegians like there beer !!!
Oh i forgot to mention that he has paperwork on the fish from he recived them thats for the 5 VF
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03 Sep 2011 17:21 #8 by andrewo (andrew)
Aye; ceech; i echo shamus's sentiments here; if you breed them i would be happy to buy them off you; its hard to come by here w/o paying big big bucks for it!

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03 Sep 2011 17:35 #9 by paulfluke (Paul)
Came across two in donegal about a week ago - male and female breeding pair - wild caught.

Guy wanted €350 for the pair.

Paul.

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03 Sep 2011 21:24 #10 by ceech (Desmond Gaynor)
@andrew_ upon doing some reasearch i may let these ones pass he wont budge of 2000 euro for 5 vf 2 f1 and 2 f1 fry is what he has.The fish are 7 years old so they are this is what worries me to be honest.They are only getting about 9 or 10 fry per month now.I also think they could be better though as he has 7.6 ph and no strong current and has not been keeping up with regular water changes and feeding to enduce breeding.
I will wait for my friend here to find out about him and based on this will decide then what to do.He thinks that i should pay no more than 1300 euro for them all and he is one of the top breeders in are area and norway.
The problem is i want fish that are of age and not fry otherwise i could get some from him without a problem f1 he has fry.
i am going by my saying an old teacher though me:PROPER PLANNING PREVENTS POOR PREFORMANCE.
and in this case for the investment i need to be sure that everything is right.
My friend is looking for other groups but as you know they are hard to find,this is why i am in two minds what to do.

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03 Sep 2011 21:37 #11 by andrewo (andrew)
Wow ceech; it is a lot of money at this time; you are right to wait till you are sure although my gut feeling is they are what he claims to be(due to the asking price); i know these are very very expensive; if there was a few fries you could have got a buyer for them to lessen your original outlay (thought it was with 10 f1 fry) then concentrate on breeding them. I think patience always pays off in the end.

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03 Sep 2011 21:38 #12 by mickdeja (Mick Whelan)
They are a beautiful fish and have seen a breedin wild pair in me day. Are they worth the price. Some folk would say no but people who keep fish a while and have never seen these fish ever will pay a fair buck for them. Over in Japan folk can pay a few hundred euro for a small shrimp, its all in the eye of the beholder, if u want really quality fish sometimes u will have to pay for it.

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03 Sep 2011 22:12 - 03 Sep 2011 22:15 #13 by ceech (Desmond Gaynor)
I though i was with 10 f1 fry myself but this is not the case the fish are defo the real deal they have checked out and have paperwork and all signed by customs when they were taken in 2005.
It annoying me i have wanted these for a very long time so i have sooooooo long ,i will ait it out and see what happen not going to make a rash decision .
@mick: you are right if you want quailty you have to pay but my worry is that they are too old i really need to see if fish 7 years old are a big risk are if they are worth it.
I estimate if i have fry i have to keep them for 6 months to get them to size to sell and i am gonna need 3 tanks in total for all the fish.
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28 Nov 2011 08:45 #14 by stretnik (stretnik)
Replied by stretnik (stretnik) on topic Re: L046 Hypancistrus Zebra VF
It looks like selling the Fish is more important than keeping the Fish, I had about 20 of these years ago, I actually got them from Petstop and while very pretty they were the most boring Fish I have ever owned, they were always hiding, they did nothing and added nothing to the Aquarium. If Guppies started to become rarer they'd shoot up in price, I guess it's down to supply and demand.

Kev.

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28 Nov 2011 09:20 #15 by fishmad1234 (Craig Coyle)
Id like to think there is some out there that want to breed them as there ment to be hard to breed



but the harsh reality of it is people are more motivated bye the money they can generate


craig

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28 Nov 2011 09:40 #16 by Gavin (Gavin)

Came across two in donegal about a week ago - male and female breeding pair - wild caught.

Guy wanted €350 for the pair.

Paul.

I'd find it hard to believe that they were wilds.

dont make me come over there.

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28 Nov 2011 13:23 #17 by ceech (Desmond Gaynor)
They have come doen in price here in norway again the ones iwere looking at are half the price now and he has documentation with them and all.
The market has been flooded with them.
My L333 are more rare now over here.

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28 Nov 2011 13:28 #18 by fishmad1234 (Craig Coyle)
I was reading on the zebrapleco.com there is a few going away norway but there illegal caught and exported


and are not in the best condition


think it was norway or maybe it was denmark


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