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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

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01 Dec 2011 17:27 #1 by alan61979 (Alan)
Is it just me or does that seem like it's about €2 too much.

I was in Belfast the other day and they're £1.20 which is about €1.40 at today's exchange rate.

How do the forum members find the pricing of fish in their LFS?

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01 Dec 2011 17:40 #2 by jwm (sean sean)
Im with ya on that one alot of shops prices are very high.I was in a pet shop in navan on tuesday 7 eurons for a convict cichlid. There full range of fish were very expensive. Dat said some shops do good deals on bulk buying as in 3 or more(hardly bulk but ya get the jist) Newlands do that every so often and there good value. However i do think the best value is to scout the forums and put up wanted posters, ya get nearly anything from a guppy to a bluefin tuna cheap and healthy.

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01 Dec 2011 17:49 #3 by dyco619 (steve carmody)
i think that all shops should reduce fish prices by half! that would be great,
any of the sponsors willing to run with this idea??? :evil: :laugh: :laugh:

but yeah 4yoyos is a bit on the expensive side, its like anything you have to shop around,
there can be very big difference in prices in anything fish related including filters/bogwood/food etc etc.

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01 Dec 2011 18:34 #4 by stretnik (stretnik)
Replied by stretnik (stretnik) on topic Re: €4 for a Cardinal Tetra!
Even on the various Fora you'll still see people trying to squeeze the last bit out of a seller, no concerns there re how much the original owner paid for them whether it was four Euro or one Euro.

I'm sure the Aquatic shops are pissed off too at high Rents etc, they haven't dropped , nor has Electricity and don't get me started about Water charges Rates etc.

The owners of Pet Shops have staff to pay and Families to support. I think it's safe to say that times are tough and everyone is trying to make ends meet and to scrape up enough profit to ride out these Gloomy Days.

I only heard the other Day , and I'm only going by what someone told me, ie, second hand info, that Seahorse pays in excess of 100 euro a Day on Electricity a Day !

I agree that 4 Euro for a Tetra is extortionate but there are quite a few Shops just treading Water, hoping to make it past Christmas.

I buy from most of the stores and only recently had cause to return to an LFS because a Fish I'd bought had gone belly up within 24 Hours, it was replaced, no questions asked and with a genuine apology, I won't stand over any Fish I sell as I am selling them so cheaply and don't have Fish that I can replace it with.

Kev.

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01 Dec 2011 22:40 #5 by BlueRam (Sean Crowe)
4 euro soes seem very high alright but again ya have ta think off wat charges shops have then self as in all the stuff kev as said and also if they are not doing there own breeding programs in the shop they have to ship fish in and cost off importin shippin per box alone is mad again that is with out the cost off the fish its self the more in shop breeding programs the better i say

just my tots

sean

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01 Dec 2011 23:01 #6 by alan61979 (Alan)
Wouldn't the shop that's selling them at €1.40 have all the same overheads as the shop thats selling them at €4?

I won't mention names, but the two shops are similar in style and size.

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01 Dec 2011 23:11 #7 by stretnik (stretnik)
Replied by stretnik (stretnik) on topic Re: €4 for a Cardinal Tetra!
Absolutely, that's why I said it was extortionate.

Kev.

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02 Dec 2011 00:03 #8 by smitas5 (Marius Smitas)
everyone has a right to choose. That's my theory :)

@stretnik - not sure if cat is appropriate in fish forum? :)

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02 Dec 2011 00:05 #9 by stretnik (stretnik)
Replied by stretnik (stretnik) on topic Re: €4 for a Cardinal Tetra!
She's lookin' at YOU !

Kev.

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02 Dec 2011 01:04 #10 by sheag35 (Seamus Gillespie)
a lot of this expense in the cost of fish is carraige to the republic, the cost of sending fish to the north is considerably cheaper than shipping it across the border, dont ask me why but it is, also costs for shops are also majorly higher here than up north as in rent, electricity, water, rates etc and dont forget our fantastic goverments contribution with our crazily high tax rates, but even with that in mind if you feel prices are too high shop around, buy the best quality at the best price and soon these overchargers and there are some will get the message when they stop losing business, especially if you let them know why you shopped elsewhere

just my 2 cents
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02 Dec 2011 11:57 #11 by igmillichip (ian millichip)
I guess we'd all like to get fish cheaper.

It's difficult to effectively compare UK with ROI prices especially with a few once-off examples.

The cardinal tetra is an unfortunate example as they can be a bit over-priced compared to other fish (discus still come into that bracket as well for some odd reason)

There are some other species in ROI that are cheap and cheerful, and sometimes you do get a lot of fish for little money (even when compared with the UK).

Last weekend I got some very nice and rarely seen species of hatchets from a LFS here for 2 euro a piece for example.
That simply cannot be beaten.

Then you may see that shops within minutes driving distance of each other may have double the price differences on some species, yet have nearly half the price on others.
Sometimes the reasons given for the mark-ups are not really acceptable, but sometimes they are.
It is a mad mark-up world out there.

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02 Dec 2011 22:45 #12 by Christor (Chris Morrow)
I must say that looking at sites of LFS in the south for their equipment is considerably higher than that in the north, actually thought it strange but couldnt find it cheaper in the south. Unfortunately there aren't a lot of proper fish places up here it seems than compared to Dublin area alone, wont name anywhere but I can only think of one dedicated fish place that does decent stuff here in the north

in saying that the selection sounds a lot better in the south, may take a little run to dublin and try round the different fish places sometime soon, boring looking at the same things week in week out

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02 Dec 2011 23:20 #13 by stretnik (stretnik)
Replied by stretnik (stretnik) on topic Re: €4 for a Cardinal Tetra!
That's so funny Christor, Years ago, I used to go North at the drop of a Hat to Grosvner and a few other Shops for Sterbai and other Fish like south American Cichlids because they just weren't available here. The North was a Mecca then, there were some good breeders and once, while I was in a Shop, I was asking about sterbai, which were retailing for 20 Sterling, I was overheard by a Customer who told me he had a Fish House and had some for sale, it was my first time ever to see a Fish House and my Eyes popped, this guy even had Stingrays etc.

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04 Dec 2011 14:07 #14 by Christor (Chris Morrow)
Ha weird, but there are actually 2 big ones I know of that retail tropicals and all the general stuff but apart from that, there are nobody else unfortunately that I think of to hand. It just seems that any hobbies are never very well represented here in the North, like forums like these I have joined all are majority southern based including clubs

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