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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

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22 May 2012 21:01 - 22 May 2012 21:03 #1 by Sunny (Sunny)
I have a palm sized angle in a 80 liter tank. What other fish I can get and be safe to put in with it?

I live @ Edenderry and have to drive around to pet shops hunt for fish, by d time I see the fish- come home search online- go back to the pet shop, the fish will be gone. they change stocking very fast.

So really need help with a list of fish that would survive with the angle, I'll do the research online, have an idea of what fish I can get,then shop around see it get it.

Please help :S
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22 May 2012 21:07 #2 by stretnik (stretnik)
Replied by stretnik (stretnik) on topic Re: what fish can I put in with angle together?
Sunny, I am sorry to bug you but please put your questions etc in the relevant sections, the Sponsors sections are solely for their use, this Question belongs in the Tropical Fish Section not Aquaworld Aquariums.

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22 May 2012 21:14 #3 by Sunny (Sunny)
Right wil remember that, tanx let me know. dont have a clue with d fish. Hope will learn a lot here

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22 May 2012 21:39 #4 by stretnik (stretnik)
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No problem at all Sunny, it takes a while to find your way around a new site but remember, we are all involved in Fish keeping and will answer what we can and advise you when you need advice.

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22 May 2012 21:49 #5 by Sunny (Sunny)
Searching on-line for all the tropical fish that's available in Ireland, try to learn about them and what they look like. Think thats wer I should start

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22 May 2012 21:58 #6 by stretnik (stretnik)
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Research the fish you have already, read about their behaviour, what other Fish are suitable to be kept with them, how many you should keep together, I mean, some Fish need to be in shoals etc, another thing you must research is he type of water that is required to make them happy, hard or soft Water etc. Don't just see a fish and say "I want that without checking out if it's suitable and lastly, some little Fish turn into huge huge monsters so find out the name of something you like and ask here or on the net before you buy it.

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22 May 2012 22:03 #7 by Sunny (Sunny)
That's what I'm doing now,hopefully find out all that on the Wikipedia website. But for the short cut do you know what fish goes safely with the angelfish?

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22 May 2012 22:10 - 22 May 2012 22:11 #8 by stretnik (stretnik)
Replied by stretnik (stretnik) on topic Re: what fish can I put in with angle together?
Congo tetras, Cory Catfish, most of the larger tetras although the ones you have have a reputation for being fin nippers, Bristle-nose Catfish, Keyhole Cichlids etc but you need to know about your Water, get a sample to a Fish store, get it tested for ph and hardness etc and give us the results, it's the best place to start.

Kev.
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22 May 2012 22:16 #9 by Sunny (Sunny)
had water tested water is ph neutral after treatment good supply of air from pump
the tank is 80 liter water is heated to correct temp lights turned off after 9pm and tank is not in direct sun light

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22 May 2012 22:17 #10 by stretnik (stretnik)
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Hardness?

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22 May 2012 22:18 #11 by Sunny (Sunny)
hard water, soft after treated

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22 May 2012 22:24 - 22 May 2012 22:25 #12 by stretnik (stretnik)
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What are you doing to soften the water and neutralise the ph? and I don't mean treating it, I mean, what exactly?

Kev.
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22 May 2012 22:27 #13 by Sunny (Sunny)
using EasyBalance from TetraAqua and easy adjust aquarium pH adjuster

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22 May 2012 22:32 #14 by stretnik (stretnik)
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How long is the Tank running?

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22 May 2012 22:37 #15 by Sunny (Sunny)
coming up 3 years, but d pump broke while ago,took a long time to get one online, just changed water and balanced out 2 weeks ago, have 1 x angelfish, 1x blackwidow and 1 x cleaner left.

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22 May 2012 22:39 #16 by stretnik (stretnik)
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How many Tanks have you?

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22 May 2012 22:41 #17 by Sunny (Sunny)
One, and just find out its not a very good choice because its tall rather than long one, hope the air pump will help

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22 May 2012 22:43 #18 by stretnik (stretnik)
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Ok, I'm lost, you say you just have three Fish but your Photo showed tetras, some in a Bottle and some outside? maybe I'm mistaken?

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22 May 2012 22:47 #19 by Sunny (Sunny)
Sorry they are the ones that didnt die, the ones are recently purchase, gonna return them tomo, if cant will give them away, they chase and nipping a lot.

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22 May 2012 22:47 #20 by stretnik (stretnik)
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Ok.

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22 May 2012 23:47 #21 by Valerie (Valerie)
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With my angels, I have silver tetras, clown loaches and a few ancistrus (180l tank).

Hope this helps.
Valerie

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23 May 2012 07:45 #22 by Sunny (Sunny)
Just checked online what clown loaches looks like. Recently bought 2 of them, the Buenos Aires Tetra I have ate 1 of them.They are very aggressive.Now that I have found couple great websites,I can learn a lot. Wont be buying wrong fish again

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23 May 2012 09:29 - 23 May 2012 09:31 #23 by Alex (Alex)
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Yeah deffo slow down with buying fish... Im sure most of us here started off the same way :laugh:

Just to warn ya 80L is a pretty small tank so your pretty limited to that amount of fish and type of fish. An Angel fish and clown loaches wont suit a 80L long term. Clown loaches do best in large groups in 500-800L + tanks. 140-160L would be minimum for a single adult angel fish (They are big fish)...

Here is some info and pics of massive cloan loaches
www.loaches.com/species-index/clown-loac...mobotia-macracanthus

If you want loaches there are much smaller variety's (Browse around the above website for info on loaches) ... Kuhli loaches would be the best choice for a 80L.

If you want cichlids there are loads of dwarf variety's that would suit a 80L... Apitogramma, rams, kribs etc..

When i first started i must of had at least 30 fish in the same size tank :crazy: .
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23 May 2012 19:53 #24 by wylam (Stuart Sexton)
Hi sunny,

It takes awhile to get a handle on what fish are compatible and what are their water requirements etc.One of the sponsors has a fish compatibility chart on their website you might want to look it up.Corys wouldn't be a good option for your tank as they do well in groups of 5 or more, the clown loaches you were talking about get way too big for your size tank.For small bottom feeders i have some hillstream loaches and armano shrimp.The angel fish you have now is probably too big for your current setup as it is. If i were you i'd clear all current fish from tank, get a shoal of neon/cardinal tetra's and some bottom feeders like the ones mentioned above.With the size and shape of your tank i cant think of any feature fish you could have that wont out grow the setup pretty quickly.The tetra's will provide lots of movement and color in the top to mid and the shrimp and loaches will do same for the bottom.But really i would look into to getting a bigger setup or just a more standard shape tank.

Cheers Stuart.

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