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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

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04 Dec 2012 19:19 - 04 Dec 2012 19:19 #1 by Gilly (Sean GIllivan)
Hey people. Very new to the hobby and have already bought myself a Juwel vision 180 litre. Have manado gravel and intend of keeping some low maintenance plants i also got some lovely wood. My question for you guys is what are your stocking suggestions, i havent much experience with different types of fish and their needs all i want is something to go well with my 8 kerri danios im transferring to this tank...and a range of different cool fish.

This is the setup so far.... + manado and maybe some rock and moss hopefully. Thanks Guys Ill be looking at every fish you suggest



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04 Dec 2012 20:04 #2 by Q_Comets (Declan Chambers)
Hi

You should probably add what your tap water is like, ph and harness etc. give all the experts here (I'm not one) a better idea of what is suitable

Good luck
Dec

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04 Dec 2012 20:37 #3 by maggy88 (Wayne Mc Glynn)
i'd go with a big group of either tetras,rasboras or some type of danios. maybe some dwarf cichlids for the bottom? german blue rams/bolivian rams, some type of apistogramma? maybe apisto. cacatuoides, borelli or agassizi? a group of corydoras for the bottom or maybe some type of loaches? some marble hatchetfish for the top of the tank? i'll pm you a link to a site which i find really useful for researching fish species.

wayne

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04 Dec 2012 21:03 #4 by newbejkjimk (damien kelly)
Hi wayne,
you might pm me that link also?
jim

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04 Dec 2012 21:05 #5 by jwm (sean sean)
Looking at your tank now i would deffo add water, then fish :). I have serpae tetra,very busy fish and in a big shoal they look super. Lots of people go for one stand out fish, google American Flag fish again nice little unusual fish.

John

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04 Dec 2012 21:33 #6 by jeff (Jeff Scully)

Hi

You should probably add what your tap water is like, ph and harness etc. give all the experts here (I'm not one) a better idea of what is suitable

Good luck
Dec


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05 Dec 2012 00:53 #7 by Gilly (Sean GIllivan)
Ill do a full test on my tap water tomoro and give you the stats, all i remember from last test is my tap water is .25 ppm ammonia which has led me to consider using the water that u can buy from LFS i think its osmo water or something like that (excuse my lack of knowledge)

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05 Dec 2012 01:10 #8 by jeff (Jeff Scully)
Hi Gilly the main thing you need to find out about ur tap water is PH as this imo is the key to it all no point keeping the likes of neons, rams ect. in a Ph of 8 if you get my drift

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05 Dec 2012 09:46 - 05 Dec 2012 09:47 #9 by bmcg38 (Brian McGrath)
is that moor wood ? nice looking piece ..

if I was you I would change the background , just have it black or blue .. That will really bring the colours of the tank out , show off your wood plants and fish really well ..
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05 Dec 2012 09:50 #10 by Ski (Alan McGee)

is that moor wood ? nice looking piece ..

if I was you I would change the background , just have it black or blue .. That will really bring the colours of the tank out , show off your wood plants and fish really well ..


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05 Dec 2012 11:01 #11 by Gilly (Sean GIllivan)
ok guys i got water from tap results....

Ammonia is touching on .25 ppm
Nitrate is 0ppm
Ph is 7.6 ppm
nitrite is 0ppm

so which fish would do well in that, apart from ammonia obviously ill have to use 50% pet shop osmo water and make sure the tank cycles well

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05 Dec 2012 11:08 #12 by Gilly (Sean GIllivan)
Yea dude i think it is. i just saw it in LFS and likes it, the base is full of arches and large holes which will be nice seeing some fish swim through. Ill take that on board about the backround and pick some up this weekend

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05 Dec 2012 11:50 #13 by Q_Comets (Declan Chambers)
Hi Gilly

You should start a new thread about your tap water ammonia level. You will probably get good advice regarding getting the level down.

Here is a link to an article Ian did
www.irishfishkeepers.com/index.php/artic...ammonia-calculations

G'luck
Dec

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05 Dec 2012 21:45 #14 by Gilly (Sean GIllivan)
Thanks comets, ian seems like a very intelligent guy, i havent a fucking clue what that stuff means haha.

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05 Dec 2012 22:16 #15 by davey_c (dave clarke)
being in glasnevin your not too far from finglas so i'd pop into des in maxizoo... i know des well and can guarantee he'll give ye top advise... he has a thing for smaller fish so stocks a good range of them ;)

Below tank is for sale

my plywood tank build.

www.irishfishkeepers.com/index.php/forum...k-build-diary#137768

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05 Dec 2012 23:38 #16 by JustinK (Justin Kelly)
If you add RO water from the lfs then the Ph and hardness will be lowered.
Most community fish are more suitable/ will thrive in neutral to soft acidic water.
Your water is hard alkaline water.
You should read up on water parameters first before diving in to stocking.

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06 Dec 2012 00:36 #17 by des (des)
hey Sean

I'd agree with the Guys on changing to a Black Back Ground, it'd look a lot better
I also agree on using R.O. Water (Reverse Osmosis) to soften Your water, it would make it easier to find tankmates for Your Kerri Danios + I can't believe the ammonia reading on your mains water, disgraceful & They want Us to pay for it...

Love Kerri Danios (as You know)

cool Fish


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06 Dec 2012 00:43 #18 by des (des)

being in glasnevin your not too far from finglas so i'd pop into des in maxizoo... i know des well and can guarantee he'll give ye top advise... he has a thing for smaller fish so stocks a good range of them ;)


cheers Dave

very nice of You to say


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New to the Hobby but already Obsessed (Just like the rest of Us)
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06 Dec 2012 00:47 #19 by igmillichip (ian millichip)

Thanks comets, ian seems like a very intelligent guy, i havent a fucking clue what that stuff means haha.


That's where asking question after question comes in. ;)

On the ammonia, mixing 50% with RO water from the LFS will do little to bring that down.
In another thread here, I calculated the ammonia in the water from the pH and temperature you gave me.

The readings from the tap only go so far to being a guide to the water parameters in your tank when it is set-up and starts to mature.
Tap water is fairly unstable when fresh out of the tap anyway.

The pH reading from the tap only gives a mild indication of what conditions you'll have in the tank if there is no alkalinity reading to go with it.

Once you can get that ammonia to zero in the tank and can keep the water clean, then there are many fish that ordinarily prefer acid water that would cope well with pHs just over 7.

I try never to go too strong on recommending what fish (as they would probably be the type of fish that I like :)), but my advice would be to look at what you like the look of and then decide if they will mix or be compatible with the water conditions.

Further to that, though, I would also recommend starting with fish that are 'flexible friends' and don't prevent you from developing further.
Danios are a great fish, many species of gourami (not Dwarf Gourami or the larger species) are good flexible fish, emperor tetras are also a good sturdy fish that allows quite a bit of flexibility for future developments.

ian

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06 Dec 2012 10:49 #20 by bmcg38 (Brian McGrath)

I can't believe the ammonia reading on your mains water, disgraceful & They want Us to pay for it...



and drink / wash in it it ..

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06 Dec 2012 22:27 #21 by JustinK (Justin Kelly)
I@ Ian if you will,
If the tank was mature would the ammonia not be broken down in the nitrogen cycle ?
Would a good water treatmen/conditioner not remove it ?

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07 Dec 2012 00:43 #22 by igmillichip (ian millichip)

I@ Ian if you will,
If the tank was mature would the ammonia not be broken down in the nitrogen cycle ?
Would a good water treatmen/conditioner not remove it ?


If the tank were mature then ammonia would be removed.
Only certain conditioners would remove the ammonia, but ammonia adsorbing zeolites would be better.


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