Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)
Hi,
John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.
I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.
With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.
I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.
If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.
I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.
I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.
Thank you
Darragh Sherwin
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I was thinking of getting a few Altum Angels for it. The idea is to have this be more of a "wow" tank than the other two i have; they have breeding convicts and firemouths in each. Are Altums easy to keep, has anyone had any experience with them? Ideally I DON'T want them to breed (cos of the usual cichlid-centric destruction that can follow) but I want something beautiful and serene. Is a 180 big enough for a few of them? And if not, can anyone suggest another cichlid I could keep in it either singly or in a small group without causing WWIII?
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there is a member on here who was breeding his last year so maybe some f1's would be a better choice if they surface again.
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Suggest you speak to igmillichip (ian) or arabu1973 (adrian) for proper guidance...
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the one i like is the uaru had them for years peacefull
emerald can order in uaru's for ye. as for angels, why not go for peruvian scalare, another nice angel and not as soft.
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In fact, a good healthy wild scalare angel may even beat the pants of a really healthy Altum for being 'stunning'.
2 key problems of Altums are:
Keeping them alive, and getting good ones in the first place.
Often they come in the country with one-foot in the grave....not a good start.
Even if you manage to secure good quality ones (and there have been good ones arrive), then the problem of water conditions is a problem.
The ideal water conditions are simply too close to being those of unstable oxidising water......and that doesn't take much to swing it to being lethal.
They can be acclimatised to less optimal but stable conditions though.
So...if you want angelfish.....I'd suggest wild or F1 Peruvian "altums" or any other wild (or F1 wild) angelfish......simply stunning.
As for other cichlids.....a few have been mentioned in the posts above this: Geophagus or Uaru (I love Uaru....great fish, but you need to take care when buying as there are some real mutts going around).
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To be quite honest though, it is unlikely to get an Uara that will grow to max size.....many captive bred ones are pretty well stunted from young and would not reach the full size.
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I have visions of me getting one and someone saying to me in a few years time "Wow! I've never seen an Uaru reach 4 feet long before!"

Altums and Uarus are not an option then and niether are Geophagus, I think. The suggestion of wild Peruvian scalare is starting to sound good though. Either way, It's going to be another 4-5 months before I get anything, I think. I'm not in a hurry

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One of the nicest cichlids of all.
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i had a salvini before, lovely fish but just be carefull wat you put them with. i would only keep them in groups at the start and possibly in a larger tank to give them plenty of room. mine was prity aggressive on his own.
hi davey
I had a salvini as well and it used to hold its own against a female jaguar and two oscars ... all larger than it...I figured it is an aggressive species...and eventually 're-located' all of them.
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