White spot

Hello,
my tropical fish like molly and platty, neon have white spot on that and they are too many on the tail as their tail look white now even black colour fish tail look white i am using "Art 79002 Exit, esha" green drop that use 20ml for 1000 litres and make my all water green but its useless its happend many time and i even changed all water but not effect any suggestion what can i do as they are rubbing against the wall and with these green drop my all tank look dirty

A lot of people on the web also recommend adding aquarium salt. I haven't done the below myself but have been keeping the instructions handy if i ever get a outbreak


If you're sure your tank has the "Ich" parasites, then start with a little standard aquarium salt. I'd recommend no more than one teaspoon per five gallons of your water change water. Most fish pathogens can't tolerate even a trace of salt in the water. This small amount won't hurt your salt sensitive fish or plants.

Increase the tank temp to 86 degrees over a 48 hour period and turn the lights off in the tank. The parasites find a host by sight.

If your fish are infected, they'll stop eating, so don't feed them for a few days.

Keep the tank water extremely clean by doing 50 percent water changes every other day and make sure you vacuum the gravel well. Most of the parasites live in the substrate.

Do these things for a week and the virus should be cured and you can return the tank to normal. It wouldn't hurt to continue to use a teaspoon of aquarium salt (never table salt) in every five gallons of your water change water for a few weeks, just to make sure the parasites are gone.

JohnH wrote:

Ski wrote:

A lot of people on the web also recommend adding aquarium salt. I haven't done the below myself but have been keeping the instructions handy if i ever get a outbreak


If you're sure your tank has the "Ich" parasites, then start with a little standard aquarium salt. I'd recommend no more than one teaspoon per five gallons of your water change water. Most fish pathogens can't tolerate even a trace of salt in the water. This small amount won't hurt your salt sensitive fish or plants.

Increase the tank temp to 86 degrees over a 48 hour period and turn the lights off in the tank. The parasites find a host by sight.

If your fish are infected, they'll stop eating, so don't feed them for a few days.

Keep the tank water extremely clean by doing 50 percent water changes every other day and make sure you vacuum the gravel well. Most of the parasites live in the substrate.

Do these things for a week and the virus should be cured and you can return the tank to normal. It wouldn't hurt to continue to use a teaspoon of aquarium salt (never table salt) in every five gallons of your water change water for a few weeks, just to make sure the parasites are gone.

I have tried salt for white spot on occasion and have never found it to be of any benefit - added to that is the fact that some Catfish (especially Corys etc) are very salt intolerant.
I must admit that I never knew the white spot pathogens had eyes and were able to find a host through seeing them either.
It's amazing what one can learn from the internet.

John

The best off-shelf product is the Waterlife product, but eSHa Exit is a lot milder and can be used more safely with more sensitive fish.

Salt is of limited benefit and may only help fish maintain a mucus coating and increase gill activity.

Now, where salt may seem to benefit is in its action on potentially high nitrate levels that may be seen in a tank with white spot.

As for darkness, the only reason I see turning lights off is because some medications may be light-sensitive, and the lights-off may help de-stress fish during treatment.

Really, though, the true cause of white-spot needs to be addressed.....it is mot the existence of the Ich parasite within the tank that is a problem per se but the condition of the tank and the fish.
Stressed fish in a heavy bio-loaded tank or unbalanced ecosystem are much more prone to the pathogenesis of Ich.

ian

well guys,
i was very stressed by watching fish with pain so i changed all the water and i clean all the fish with my finger tips now tired lets see what gonna happend when i awake
God bless my fish

It takes time.

The spots in White Spot are not actually on the skin of fish.....they are under the surface of the skin.
So, if a fish scratches to get them off and succeeds then the fish is doing an awful lot of damage as that would have gouged chunks off the fish to do so (and then with the skin damaged even more, the fish is the more prone to bacterial infection).

Any means to kill the parasite whilst it is on the fish is likely to kill or damage the fish as well.

Hence, the reason why the fish medications use a tactic of dosing that kills the white spot parasite when it is in the part of the life-cycle where it has left the fish.

One part of that life cycle also involves a stationary phase where the parasite must lie stationary off-the-fish for a while before the next part of the life cycle.

So....if you can disrupt the stationary off-fish phase then that will help.
How to do....simple.....clean all corners and ornaments and gravel and make sure that there is good water movement circulating in all areas of the tank (do that by extra aeration or re-directing filter out-let directions).

Seeing the white spots disappear off a fish is no indication that the white spot has gone.
Therefore follow the instructions on the particular medication for the how long to continue dosing and at what temp. Each product has different dosing regimens.

Don't introduce any new fish for a good few weeks by the way as the new introductions will be more susceptible to any white spot parasites within your tank.

ian

Ok,
I will follow your instruction, even though cleaning with finger tip help and all fish seems fine and now opening full fin then shrink and snake like swim. now i have to do medication.

all of the above, waterlife protozin is excellent and i have 1lt bottles of it (big tank) just in case. cut back on feeding till they are better, raise the temp by NOT MORE than 1 degree per day, to around 28/29 degrees and follow the medicine instructions to the letter, and repeat as necessary.
do you have a water test kit? any details of how big your tank/how many fish? any new fish put in there?

JohnH wrote:

m_sb wrote:

Ok,
I will follow your instruction, even though cleaning with finger tip help and all fish seems fine and now opening full fin then shrink and snake like swim. now i have to do medication.

Are you absolutely certain that your fish have white spot?

I would never have witnessed an infestation which could be 'wiped off' the fish by hand.

Might this be a fungal attack?

From your description I'm wondering if this might be the case - you could wipe off most forms of eternal fungus so just maybe your original diagnosis might be incorrect, after all. Picture required.

John

The bit about wiping with finger tips confused me.

Apart from the fact that wiping fish with finger tips is not good as it will damage the skin and render them more susceptible to disease.

If it can be wiped off by finger tips then either it is not white spot or the rubbing is way too hard and physically removing the flesh (not just the scales) from the fish.

ian