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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

Angel and male Betta

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30 Aug 2013 02:56 #1 by gunnered72 (Eddy Gunnered)
Can an Angel and a male Betta coexist in larger tanks? Say 240 litres!

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30 Aug 2013 08:36 #2 by igmillichip (ian millichip)
They can....BUTttttt......not always advisable.
(I assume the Betta is a siamese fighting fish ?? and not some other form of Betta)

240 litres can be way too big for a male siamese fighter if you cannot guarantee proper security and food.
If the male Betta is a Plakat style then he will have better chance of getting food though.

There may be aggression problems. With these species, the aggression could be both ways.

Personally, I feel that siamese fighters are best kept as species-only tanks. If you have bought the fish as opposed to bred them then it is best to have male siamese fighters in a specimen tank.

It takes a bit of a skill to get a siamese fighter to succeed in a community tank (or it could be simply a matter of luck)

ian

Irish Tropical Fish Society (ITFS) Member.

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30 Aug 2013 08:45 #3 by bmcg38 (Brian McGrath)
wouldn't do it myself as both species are prone to aggression .. you could have a chilled fighter and a narky angle or visa versa

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30 Aug 2013 08:46 #4 by JohnH (John)
Replied by JohnH (John) on topic Angel and male Betta
I think answering this question is like answering the old chestnut question: "how long is a piece of string/".
There are no hard and fast answers, in my opinion.
I really totally depends upon the individual fish involved.
I have Angels here which totally rule the roost and would 'see to' anything which they would come into contact with and others which are - literally - as meek as lambs.
Likewise with Bettas (male - yes, and females) which are much the same!

My suggestion, for what it's worth, would be to give it a try but retain a watchfulness over the situation - for the first week or so as a very minimum period.

They might well coexist perfectly peacefully - especially in a reasonably large tank - which would be great.

Plenty of places of retreat for either would be good, but if the worst scenario did occur and you ended up with two totally aggressive fish then places to hide might be an irrelevance.

Obviously there is the argument that these fish originate from two totally different continents, but I think this is really less important than how they will interact with one another - after all the fish do not know that one comes from South America and the other from Asia!

Give it a go if you're determined to try the experiment - but be ready to admit failure if the fish do not want to 'play ball'.

Any thoughts from anyone else on this subject?

John

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N. Tipp

We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl - year after year.


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It's a long way to Tipperary.

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30 Aug 2013 09:16 #5 by CrustyCrab (Peter Biddulph)
There is always the possibility that they can coexist together, but I wouldn't do it.
The flowing fins are always a temptation!

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