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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

WHITE SPOT IN TANK

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19 Mar 2009 17:52 #1 by alkiely (alan kiely)
Im about to use anti white spot in my juwel tank do i take out the white carbon media and can i use it on a bala shark

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19 Mar 2009 18:01 #2 by Mick0075 (Michael OSullivan)
The carbon sponge in juwel tanks are always black and fit under white sponge which is a polishing pad to take small particles out of water. Leave white one in and take black one out. Don't see any problems with treating bala shark. Best of luck with treatment.

Mick

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19 Mar 2009 18:03 #3 by alkiely (alan kiely)
Thanks cant find out much i use its a pain lost the box of the bottle

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19 Mar 2009 18:16 #4 by alkiely (alan kiely)
Dont understand how this got into my tank ? i didnt add new fish and all the fish in the tank have been there for a month now any help with how this got in my tank anyone?

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19 Mar 2009 18:26 #5 by alkiely (alan kiely)
The only thing i can think off is the plants i got and planted is it possible that they could carry white spot...... all my fish have it and are pretty much covered.

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20 Mar 2009 00:03 #6 by platty252 (Darren Dalton)
Yes the white spot could have come in on the plants or it could have been in the tank.
A simple thing like a cool water change could have triggered it.

What treatment did you get and someone might be able to help with the dosage since the instructions have gone missing.
You could also increase the temp. to 29c to get rid of it. Just remember increasing the temp. will reduce the oxygen in the water so added aeration is needed.

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20 Mar 2009 01:18 #7 by reefpaddy (paddy kelly)
im not 100 percent sure but i imagine marine is the same as freshwater, as its been a while since ikept fw, although i set up a fw tank 2 weeks ago. [first time in 5 years]
i know with marines white spot can be started by stress and it is contagis as a cold is to humans so make sure your wc is ok and your fish arent nipping each other.
white spot dosent have to be added to your tank it can appear at any time.

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20 Mar 2009 13:14 #8 by alkiely (alan kiely)
I use interpet white spot...! got it for my other tank months ago and it worked very well.

Found the dosage on the interpet website.

I did a 10% water change on tue night and added stress coat and stress zyme to the correct amount per amount of water. Cleaned the polshing media with water from the tank. When i was setting up the tank i added white spot to the water after a week just before i added any fish

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20 Mar 2009 16:41 #9 by Fishowner (Gavin fishowner)
Increase the temp to 29c also in conjunction with using the meds. Also make sure there are no corys,shrimps etc in your tank as the meds can be harmful,if corys are present I would quarantine them separately and add 1/2 doseage (some dont agree with this but its the best way I find,as scaleless fish can have problems with meds like these),also watch out for any fish that could struggle at 29c, most will be fine over a small period of time to this temp and increase is slowly up and similarly slowly down at the end. The temp increase kills the parasite when it is in its free swimming stage. The ones attached to the fish will only be effected by the meds.
Also dont spill the med on your clothes! Its stains dark blue!!
Gavin

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20 Mar 2009 16:50 #10 by alkiely (alan kiely)
temp is at 28c, fish look like they are getting worse, tetras seem to be fine even dough they have a few spots. Im really pissed about this coz i think the white spot came in on my plants there is no other way:angry: grrrrrrrrrrr

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20 Mar 2009 17:14 #11 by Fishowner (Gavin fishowner)
Will take at least 24 hours if not 48 hours before you even see an improvement I have found.

Gavin

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20 Mar 2009 17:23 #12 by alkiely (alan kiely)
Just wondering my tank is cloudy looking, dont really wanna do a water change after puting in the meds last night so wiil i just leave for now and change water before i put in more meds in 5 days time?

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20 Mar 2009 18:31 #13 by Fishowner (Gavin fishowner)
Depends what the instructions on the meds say. I would imagine you wouldnt do a water change during treatment,check the readings,if they are in order then cloudyness is nothing to worry about.When the meds are finished with in full, you can then check the reason for the cloudy water, could be due to plants,algae bloom with the recent sunshine or that the filter is less effective due to possible sponges,pads being dirty etc..
Gavin

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20 Mar 2009 18:47 #14 by alkiely (alan kiely)
Filter is fine cleaned the polshing media last night and the tank has been running a month which should rule out the filter?

Sunshine...... maybe it makes sense, so how do i remove the bloom bye water changes?

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23 Mar 2009 10:15 #15 by alkiely (alan kiely)
After using white spot meds after 4 days ago there has been a huge differnece, my bala ( lenny ) is nearly white spot free, the nearly dead platty is swimming around still looks abit sick one of his eyes has are white bubble round it? ( any ideas what that is )all other fish are white spot free.

But now my smaller tank has a small out break of white spot on two fish. I planted the tank with the same plants i used in the 180l on the same day so i have come to the understanding that it is the plants that carried the white spot into both tanks, the only problem is that i have 3 guppy fry in the tank in a fry net and im not sure if i can add meds in the tank with them?

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23 Mar 2009 10:42 #16 by mrsFishpatrick (Astrid Fitzpatrick)
Hi
are the plants you are referring too the ones I gave you?
just curious

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23 Mar 2009 10:46 #17 by alkiely (alan kiely)
Hey,

SORRY should of said... no they are the ones i paid for, only noticed the white spot when i was planting the grass i got of you( which looks great thanks ).


Can i use white spot meds in my tank with fry?

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23 Mar 2009 11:28 - 23 Mar 2009 11:29 #18 by meath.fish (meath fish)
Mick0075 wrote:

The carbon sponge in juwel tanks are always black and fit under white sponge.
Leave white one in and take black one out.
Mick


When treatments are necessary, I've been reluctant to use them due to the need for "removing part of the filter"

- how long should the black carbon filter be removed for? (Does it depend on treatment)?
- what impact will there be if the black carbon filter is left in during treatment?
- do most treatment only require the black carbon filter to be removed? (as opposed to say the green nitrate one)

thanks.
Brian
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23 Mar 2009 11:38 #19 by Valerie (Valerie)
Replied by Valerie (Valerie) on topic Re:WHITE SPOT IN TANK
In normal circumstances, the black sponge (carbon) is not really required in a tank. A lot of people leave this one out and only add it in when they require to filter medication out of the water. However, if used, it definitely needs to be removed when adding medication to the water.
If using the carbon sponge, it has to be changed regularly (not sure about the frequency though) as once full, it leeches impurities back in the water, hence polluting it.

I hope this helps.

Valerie

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23 Mar 2009 12:08 #20 by meath.fish (meath fish)
Valerie wrote:

the black sponge (carbon) if used, it definitely needs to be removed when adding medication to the water.

Valerie


Hi Valerie,
so if I'm using the black carbon filter and it needs to be removed when using treatment, how long do you leave it out for while the treatment works? 24 hours? couple of days....or does this depend on the actual treatment being used?

thanks.

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23 Mar 2009 12:18 #21 by alkiely (alan kiely)
Hey Valerie,

Cn i used meds for white spot with fry in the tank

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23 Mar 2009 12:20 #22 by Fishowner (Gavin fishowner)
Yes you can.
Gavin

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23 Mar 2009 12:21 #23 by mrsFishpatrick (Astrid Fitzpatrick)
alkiely wrote:

Hey,

SORRY should of said... no they are the ones i paid for, only noticed the white spot when i was planting the grass i got of you( which looks great thanks ).


Can i use white spot meds in my tank with fry?


Okay, I was starting to worry about this, because even though I did treat my tank for whitespot once (as a precaution) it turned out that it (whitespot)was never in my tank and I had to treat for Heximata (wich was much worse)
Thanks for having that cleared up, because the grass I gave you was in my fry tank for a couple of days and I seen no whitespot on them.

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23 Mar 2009 12:26 #24 by alkiely (alan kiely)
Thanks gavin for even more help........:laugh:

And ill be posting new pics of my rio 2day with the grass and a new setup also

Thanks,

Alan

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27 Mar 2009 15:16 #25 by alkiely (alan kiely)
Update on the tank.................

The white spot is gone:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: and the platty which was lyin on his side not moving has made a complete recovery and is flying round the tank cant believe he is not dead coz he was circling the drain........

Still one platty with a fungus infection on his eye but is lookin better every day tank has cleared up im putting it down to an algea bloom did a 40% water change and it is looking normal.

Is there anything i can get to stop another algea bloom from happening my tank?

The tank is in my sitting room but doesnt get alot of natural sunlight on it but in the evening time it does.

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27 Mar 2009 15:29 #26 by nonie (leonie troy)
Great job well done on the recovery. You could put some carbon in the filter. Or as I have been telling alot of ppl and what I use myself is PClear for algae blooms. I think it is great and does the trick.

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27 Mar 2009 15:32 #27 by alkiely (alan kiely)
I have carbon i took it out for the meds so thats why i tink i got the bloom....... I m still using meds so i tink it might happen again before i put the carbon back in the filter.

Thanks

Alan

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