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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

Another Algea problem

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01 Apr 2009 20:51 #1 by alkiely (alan kiely)
After being away all weekend i came home to notice a huge algea bloom again........... only this time even the glass on the tank was covered.

There was no light getting into the room but i did notice my timer wasnt set right and the lights
were on the whole time. I have T5 setup with 1 nature and 1 day light.

I did a 50% water change but still the water was very cloudy looking, so today i did a 25% water change and it looks alot better.

Is there anything i can put in my tank? dont like using chemicals but i think i wont have a choice any ideas please?

Alan

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01 Apr 2009 20:55 #2 by fourmations (NIall SMyth)
what sort of algae is it?
how old is the tank?
is it a co2 planted tank?

rgds

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01 Apr 2009 21:02 #3 by alkiely (alan kiely)
The tank is setup 6 weeks

The algea was a dark green / brown colour on glass and the water was a greeny colour

Tank is planted but i dont use any Co2, plants are growing like mad dough

I did use nutrafin plant gro after a water change coz of algea problems again before i went away

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01 Apr 2009 21:23 #4 by Zoom (Zoom)
Hi Alan,

I've seen this stuff its called algone, heres the link. Dont know how well it works, its not chemical anyway from what they say.

algone.com/

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01 Apr 2009 21:30 #5 by alkiely (alan kiely)
Had a quick read about the stuff and if it works well its great havnt got the time to read more i will 2moro just so tired:laugh:

Thanks for the link zoom.

Anyone got any other ideas?

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01 Apr 2009 22:41 #6 by fourmations (NIall SMyth)
hi al

have look at this and see if you can id your algae
mralgae.blogspot.com/2008/01/so-you-have...ed-weed-in-your.html

i am not a fan of medications myself

most algaes have a root cause,
usually dirty substrate or poor flow
and dead spots in the tank

you can physically clean a lot of algaes
and then keep it at bay, if you have addressed
the issues of why it started,

give me rundown of the tank specs
filter, lights, tank size etc etc

dont panic though, we all have or have had it,

your tank is still fairly young
and liable to have teething issues

rgds

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02 Apr 2009 01:58 #7 by Trimax (Trimax)
Pleco heaven!

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02 Apr 2009 02:06 #8 by serratus (Drew Latimer)
You could also go for SAE.. Siamese algae eater.. WAY BETTER THAN ANY PLEC. SP...IMO!! PM for details..

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02 Apr 2009 02:37 #9 by Trimax (Trimax)
Drew your almost as pathetic as I am ;p! algea advice at 2.00 am! agree with ya though plec's are not the greatest, and way too messy.

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02 Apr 2009 09:45 - 02 Apr 2009 09:57 #10 by alkiely (alan kiely)
Funny you should talk about a Siamese algae eater my friend got one the other day.....:laugh:

fourmations,

My water gets cloudy very slighty green which is prob from the sunlight in my living room but it gets no direct sunlight. Its the green/brown algae thats forms on the glass and round the bottem of the tank that looks horrible.

There was a Co2 calculator, entered in my details

PH: 7.5

KH: 180

and got a reading of Co2 9.582 ppm.......?

Specs:

Juwel rio 180

juwel internal filter( came with tank ),

juwel 200w heater( that works:laugh:)

T5 light setup 1 day , 1 nature

Wondering if you have heard anything on this algone stuff

algone.com/
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02 Apr 2009 15:57 #11 by platty252 (Darren Dalton)
Alan when algon was released a few years back it worked very well. Lately they have given it a new look and what ever is in it now dose not do the job it is supposed to.
Besides you shouldn't need to use such additives.
The reason you had the algae bloom this time was because the lights were left on for so long. Only leave the lights on for 6 hours a day for the moment. Increasing to 8-10 hours in a couple of weeks time.
The algae bloom you describe will pass. If it is on the glass leave it there to clear itself. If you wipe it you will only spread it and it will take longer to clear.
You could pack more fine filter wool in the filter to speed up clearing the tank.

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02 Apr 2009 17:43 #12 by alkiely (alan kiely)
Platty i seen very fine filter wool today but it said it does havnt to go into the filter it can be placed in tank....?

Also i have removed the carbon from the filter 10 days ago while i was using meds would that make any difference.

Alan

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02 Apr 2009 20:42 #13 by alkiely (alan kiely)
I was wondering if i added another internal filter say with more fine wool filter media would that help with keeping water clear and keep the growth of algae down.....?

I was going to added another one in shortly but i wouldnt no what to add to my rio 180.

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22 Apr 2009 15:31 #14 by meath.fish (meath fish)
Hey Guys, without starting a new thread, hope I can follow on here,
I've seen a slow, but steady rise in recent weeks in what appears to be Green Spot algae..

(thanks for the link to help identify:)
mralgae.blogspot.com/2008/01/so-you-have...ed-weed-in-your.html

..on the glass of the tank only (started at the back, and now appearing
on the front too).the water is clear, lights are only on 6 hours a days, Juwel 240 with T lighting.
nothing unusual changed recently, have 2 plecs, but they are not working overtime :laugh:
also the Algae is getting harder to remove from the glass with the magnets (I'll have to upgrade to
a razor blade).All readings normal. Only really have 1 plant in the tank.

Have read a few other topics on this, but cant seem to pinpoint where to go.

any direction would be helpful.. ;)

Brian

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22 Apr 2009 20:00 #15 by paulbohs (Paul Doyle)
Hi Brian, What water do you use (tap or reverse osmosis)? Do you test for nitrates and phosphates? I'm just down the road if you want a fresh pair of eyes or if you need RO water and the test kits mentioned.

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22 Apr 2009 21:21 #16 by meath.fish (meath fish)
Hi Paul,

Using tap water (town water) , has always been fine in the past.
testing with a Nutrafin mini master test kit for ph/ammonia/nitrite/nitrate.
checking for phosphates might be a good step.
Good idea, sure call over for a chat and a look at the tank either some day/evening
next week or the week after.

one more thing, added some med for whitespot about 2 weeks ago and removed the carbon
filter at the time (still didn't put it back in), but the algae growth was already
maturing, so don't think the carbon filter being out did anything.

Brian

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01 Jun 2009 14:38 - 01 Jun 2009 14:40 #17 by meath.fish (meath fish)
Hi Paul,
Still have the algae problem and its steadily increasing, althgough water quality is remaining good and clear, just the glass getting caked with it and harder to scrap and remove.The algae brush i bought is begining to crack at the handles, is there another scrubber I can buy that won't scrape the glass in the process? I'm cleaning it off and its returning within a week, still don't know root cause, any ideas?
oh and I've also reduced the lighting from 8 to 5.5 hours a day.

Brian :unsure:
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01 Jun 2009 16:01 #18 by alkiely (alan kiely)
Hi Paul,

I have noticed a build up on th 54l which is in my sitting room, it has got so much worse in the last 6weeks which i put down to the change in weather. Where abouts do you have ur tank agian...? and does i get any natural light....?

On the plecs not the best algea eaters i would get some SAE, i got a few for my 180l and they munch on my glass all day they are big and fat ha ha ha.

Alan

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02 Jun 2009 01:04 #19 by platty252 (Darren Dalton)
If i remember correctly green spot algae is from a lack of potassium phosphate. potash from your garden center will do. I think it's the J. Arthur Bowers brand you need to go for. It will be called fruit and flower food.
I'm not sure how much you need to use. You would need to test the water for phosphate(Po4) and find out how much is needed to get rid of the green spot algae. Don't just trow some in and hope for the best.
Hopefully with a few more details some one here will help with dosing Po4 to get rid of the Algae.

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02 Jun 2009 16:54 #20 by ted30 (Damo Mac an Bhaird)
platty252 wrote:

If i remember correctly green spot algae is from a lack of potassium phosphate. potash from your garden center will do. I think it's the J. Arthur Bowers brand you need to go for. It will be called fruit and flower food.
I'm not sure how much you need to use. You would need to test the water for phosphate(Po4) and find out how much is needed to get rid of the green spot algae. Don't just trow some in and hope for the best.
Hopefully with a few more details some one here will help with dosing Po4 to get rid of the Algae.


Potash is not Potassium Phosphate. Potash is potassium sulfate. You'll need Mono Potassium Phosphate to dose PO4 in an aquarium. I've seen small buckets of Arthur Bowers. I'm not sure you can use that form of phosphate, its not potassium phosphate. It's some other form of PO4.

Location: Carrickmacross, County Monaghan

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02 Jun 2009 17:42 #21 by platty252 (Darren Dalton)
Whoops! my mistake. You see what late night drinking dose to my posts.:laugh:
You are right Ted potash is potassium sulphate and it is potassium phosphate(K2PO4) that is needed.

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02 Jun 2009 19:03 #22 by ted30 (Damo Mac an Bhaird)
platty252 you brought up an interesting point. I wonder could we use J. Arthur Bowers super phosphate as our supplement for po4? It's easily accessible if we could use it. It's not potassium phosphate. Is their anybody who would know? Zig maybe?

Location: Carrickmacross, County Monaghan

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02 Jun 2009 19:56 #23 by platty252 (Darren Dalton)
That question is worth mentioning in the plant section. I wouldn't know myself. But i do use potash in the PMDD mix.
Here is a link that gives the contents in each product. Check out the NPK %.
www.william-sinclair.co.uk/gardening/products/plant_food

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02 Jun 2009 21:07 #24 by ted30 (Damo Mac an Bhaird)
platty252 wrote:

That question is worth mentioning in the plant section. I wouldn't know myself. But i do use potash in the PMDD mix.
Here is a link that gives the contents in each product. Check out the NPK %.
www.william-sinclair.co.uk/gardening/products/plant_food


Well from that website you supplied it contains a large amount P (0-17-0) but no K. So I wonder what else it contains.

Location: Carrickmacross, County Monaghan

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02 Jun 2009 21:39 #25 by platty252 (Darren Dalton)
Have a look at some of the others like rose food NPK 5 - 5 - 10.
I dont know a lot about fertz, as in which ingredient dose what. I mix up some about twice a year or use Tropica+ NP.
Post this in the plant section and you might get better input.

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