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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

ADA Aquasoil amazonia

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02 Apr 2009 13:52 #1 by mrsFishpatrick (Astrid Fitzpatrick)
who uses it and where can I get it.?
I am breaking my head on how to get an acceptable way of lowering my ph for some shrimps I'll be getting, my ph from the tap is creaping up as far as 8.2 lately Gh is 180ppm and Kh is 100ppm
I need to get this down to acceptable levels and I don't know what else to do.
Thanks for the help

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02 Apr 2009 14:08 #2 by platty252 (Darren Dalton)
With such hard water i would suggest Amazonia 2.
Unfortunately you would have to buy it online. The postage can work out expensive because of the weight of the substrate.
You can get it here; www.thegreenmachineaquatics.com/mall/dep..._199030/1/Substrates

You could also try a DI unit to softer the water. I haven used one in a while so i'm not sure how much it will soften your water.

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02 Apr 2009 14:09 #3 by Ian (Anthony Ramirez)
I'll push through with importing as much brown and crunchy almold leaves catappa as I can this year, hopefully customs will allow it. It certainly my best method to lowering ph as our tap is quite alkaline

Fishkeeping CV: Co-founded, 1st President of the only surviving Fishkeeping Club (Accredited by Dept. of Fisheries) in the Philippines (mypalhs.com). I have mostly reared tropicals - Arowanas and monster fishes. My oldest arowana is 13years old (died in a tropical storm). Ive since reared a Black,...

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02 Apr 2009 19:11 #4 by russell (russell watson)
There is no one as yet importing the ADA in the republic, but you can get ada from Grosvenor tropicals In Belfast £28 per bag, e/ mail them first they do not deliver!!!!

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02 Apr 2009 19:16 #5 by mrsFishpatrick (Astrid Fitzpatrick)
russell wrote:

There is no one as yet importing the ADA in the republic, but you can get ada from Grosvenor tropicals In Belfast £28 per bag, e/ mail them first they do not deliver!!!!


thanks for that, I'll see what they say

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03 Apr 2009 00:20 #6 by Daragh_Owens (Daragh Owens)
russell wrote:

There is no one as yet importing the ADA in the republic, but you can get ada from Grosvenor tropicals In Belfast £28 per bag, e/ mail them first they do not deliver!!!!


Make sure you email or call first as they did not stock it the last few times I was there and where I asked they showed me some Red Star or Red Sea substrate, that looked similar but was not ADA.

Daragh

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03 Apr 2009 10:35 #7 by mrsFishpatrick (Astrid Fitzpatrick)
emailed them and they said they don't stock it and I am only the 2nd person to ask about it.
I'll keep looking, might be able to get some in my homecountry (holland) and get a relative to send it over.

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03 Apr 2009 11:06 #8 by mrsFishpatrick (Astrid Fitzpatrick)
checked that out and is only convenient if I get 3 bags of 9 liter send over, would work out about 50E a bag including p&p
not anyone else looking for some of this stuff no?

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03 Apr 2009 12:46 #9 by russell (russell watson)
Have e/mailed Grosvenor to see if they would order it If we prepaid. waiting reply

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03 Apr 2009 12:49 #10 by mrsFishpatrick (Astrid Fitzpatrick)
that's a good idea, also noticed the postage doesn't go up for 3 bags or more with greenmachine, I am definately game

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03 Apr 2009 15:35 #11 by alkiely (alan kiely)
grosvenor tropicals is only in lisburn about 30min outside newry its well worth a trip if ur in newry shopping ive been up there and its a great place.

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03 Apr 2009 15:37 #12 by mrsFishpatrick (Astrid Fitzpatrick)
they don't have the ADA

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03 Apr 2009 19:58 #13 by manius112 (Mariusz Kaminski)
ADA will lower pH for short time only. It will be saturat and after pH come back to the same lewel.
The best way is CO2. You can use Fire extinguisher to lower pH and you will be sure that pH newer change.
Amazonia is best for plants.

This is my fish tank. I wos 12 on first Polish Nano Contest on this year but to rbing ADA to Ireland costed me fortune.

Im using amazonia II and after 3 months pH comeback to normal level so only one way to decrease wos CO2.

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03 Apr 2009 20:00 #14 by manius112 (Mariusz Kaminski)
ADA will lower pH for short time only. It will be saturat and after pH come back to the same lewel.
The best way is CO2. You can use Fire extinguisher to lower pH and you will be sure that pH newer change.
Amazonia is best for plants.

This is my fish tank. I wos 12 on first Polish Nano Contest on this year but to rbing ADA to Ireland costed me fortune.

Im using amazonia II and after 3 months pH comeback to normal level so only one way to decrease wos CO2.
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04 Apr 2009 00:00 #15 by platty252 (Darren Dalton)
Hi manius nice tank.
I am surprised to hear after 3 months your pH returned to normal levels.
Maybe your KH & GH were high?
I have been using the same Amazonia for over a year and it still keeps the pH down.
I even used it in a tank with RO water for Betta ubris to give me a pH of 3-4.

I have just tested the water in a tank with the same old Amazonia that i have been using.
The water going in to the tank has a pH 7.6 with low GH & KH.
The pH is 6.42. The tank is only set up with no Co2 injection yet.
Maybe your GH & KH are high and the Amazonia cant compete to keep the pH down.

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04 Apr 2009 08:08 #16 by russell (russell watson)
I agree with Platty It should last at least 2 years. in fact there is people on Simply Discus that havn't changed it for 3 and It's still doing the job. As Platty said you need a k/h g/h d/h of around 2 any harder and it will struggle!!!

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04 Apr 2009 21:07 #17 by cardinal (Lar Savage)

they don't have the ADA


Hi astrid
But they do have some of the "branchy" bog wood you were looking for a while ago....

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04 Apr 2009 21:12 #18 by mrsFishpatrick (Astrid Fitzpatrick)
Interesting, I will have to go up for a drive one of these sundays.
thanks for letting me know

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04 Apr 2009 21:40 #19 by Zoom (Zoom)
Grovesnor doesn't open till 1pm On Sunday so dont start out too Early .

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04 Apr 2009 21:45 #20 by mrsFishpatrick (Astrid Fitzpatrick)
Nothing opens till 1 on a sunday up there, found that out one day when me and a friend left nice and early (8am) to go to Ikea,
spent 2 hours and a bit waiting in the car:laugh: (wasn't funny then)

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04 Apr 2009 21:54 #21 by zig (zig)
Replied by zig (zig) on topic Re:ADA Aquasoil amazonia
I was always of the impression that it was a only temporary ph drop with Aquasoil. I have never seen any threads on the planted forums where a prolonged ph drop was expected or it became a problem. The reason I say that is because most planted tank folk will use Co2 and this will usually drop your ph by 1 degree ph (usually the target anyway) so in conjunction with a prolonged ph drop from the Aquasoil a lot of aquariums may not be viable if that were the case, just some thoughts anyway.

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04 Apr 2009 22:01 #22 by Zoom (Zoom)
I know what you mean :laugh: , same way I found out.

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04 Apr 2009 22:46 #23 by gerryberry (Jeff Daly)
Sorry for cutting across thread but just a quick question, Platty what testing product do you use to get such a specific pH reading of 6.42. I use the test tube one, can,t think of the manufacturer but match the test tube colour up to a colour chart but it definitely won,t give such a specific figure.

Thank GB

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05 Apr 2009 01:44 #24 by platty252 (Darren Dalton)
Hi Gerry. I use a pH meter to measure the pH. Well it's a pH controller but i only use it to measure pH.
Something like this;
cgi.ebay.com/DIGITAL-PH-CONTROLLER-ELECT...7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50
I have different tanks that have a different pH. Marine, soft water, planted etc. It just saves a lot of time to use a meter.
I also make up a lot of RO water. For this (IMO) a PH & TDS meter are essential.

Zig you kind lost me in the last part of your tread. Maybe it's the one eye i am looking through from to many beers but in the words of the virgin Mary, come again.

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05 Apr 2009 10:51 #25 by gerryberry (Jeff Daly)
Platty, thanks a millon for info

GB

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05 Apr 2009 17:57 #26 by russell (russell watson)
Please see News Section for ADA

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06 Apr 2009 10:52 #27 by rclerkin (Rory Clerkin)
This might merit a new thread but ....

What method would anybody recommend for adding ADA Amazonia to an established aquarium?
I'd like to progress my tank to planted but I don't have a seperate/quarantine tank. If the Amazonia is going to have a dramatic effect then I'm sure I'd need another tank but is there another option?

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06 Apr 2009 11:27 #28 by russell (russell watson)
Lets get this into perspective. ADA is not a wonder / magic bullet. Everything depends on your current perams. If you have a High Ph combined more importantly with a high Gh/Kh then it will not drop it to much, as the ADA will be battlieng aginst the Gh & Kh, Where it works is for instance My Ph is 7.0 but the Kh & Dh are 2. so therefore thE ADA does not have to fight against the hardness. with the addaed benefot of C02 it works great. The method asked on how do we get an exact Ph reading is That, along with Platty and other menbers I use a Ph controller which monitors the Ph down to Tenths Of 1. e.g 6.05 The benefit being you can see early if any fluctuation long befor anythig dranmatic occurs. Instead of trying to select the Ph colour on a card. (and everyone see's colour differently) They are not to expensive but not cheap. with high value stock they are indispensable IMO

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