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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

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01 May 2009 20:24 #1 by alkiely (alan kiely)
Hi all,

Ive changed what i feed my rams, they are on peas and sweetcorn, hikari cichlid gold and hikari algae flakes but they dont go near the cichlid food and pick at the flakes.

What else can i give them to eat...? i need some kind of food that will sink to the bottom as they wont eat at the surface.


Alan

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01 May 2009 21:14 #2 by Fishowner (Gavin fishowner)
New Life Spectrum sinking pellets. They will eat that.What temp are you keeping them at ?
Gavin

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02 May 2009 10:27 #3 by alkiely (alan kiely)
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The temp is at 25-26c so dont get whats up with them.

Alan

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02 May 2009 13:57 #4 by Fishowner (Gavin fishowner)
Depending on what other fish you have with them, Id even put the temp up another degree,Ive mine running at 28c.
Gavin

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02 May 2009 14:34 #5 by alkiely (alan kiely)
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I have a mix of different tetras

Fire tetras, albino, glowlights also Harlequins, plattys, mollies, SAE, corys

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02 May 2009 14:38 #6 by Fishowner (Gavin fishowner)
Best leaving it as it is so then.
Gavin

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02 May 2009 14:58 #7 by alkiely (alan kiely)
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Im still wondering why they wont eat the hikari cichlid food? all the other fish love it, my tetras go mad for it.

Need a basic food for them ill give the nls a go see how i go i guess.


Alan

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02 May 2009 20:22 #8 by ted30 (Damo Mac an Bhaird)
If you can get it, JBL tabs. Mine love them. I break them up into small pieces. Only problem is all the other fish love them as well.

Location: Carrickmacross, County Monaghan

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02 May 2009 20:24 #9 by ted30 (Damo Mac an Bhaird)
The temperature you have them at is perfect. They don't like higher temperatures like there cousins the blue rams.

Location: Carrickmacross, County Monaghan

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03 May 2009 08:27 #10 by alkiely (alan kiely)
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Im guessing they just dont like the stuff, at least my other tetras like them

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05 May 2009 15:41 #11 by alkiely (alan kiely)
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Update,

Ive been feeding them bloodworm, artemia and peas and sweetcorn for the last few days and i have noticed a huge difference in them alot more active and coluring up nicely.

Even noticed my male and 1 of the females swimming around each other tail to head and lip locking so with a bit of luck they will pair of and add to the list of fish getting it.

Alan

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05 May 2009 22:40 #12 by Trimax (Trimax)
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Tetra Dorimin crisps (the one that looks like ringworm!) is an excellent food for small cichlids. it sinks, does not turn to mush like flake and has colour enhancing ingredients.

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27 May 2009 10:19 #13 by alkiely (alan kiely)
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Update......

My big male ram died this morning, i watched him waste away would be they best way put it.

Wasnt eating anything at all, all my other rams are fine but they wont eat anything other than bloodworm, brine shrimp, peas and sweet corn.... is it ok just to feed them this or do they need more..?

Ive tried hikari gold pellets and waffers, nls, i got two different types of food from my lfs and still nothing, im gonna try some garlic in the food later but if that doesnt work im out of ideas can anyone else they me what i can feed them...?

Alan

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27 May 2009 18:15 #14 by alkiely (alan kiely)
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Got a clove of garlic, so do i just put it into the food or chop it up into big lumps and put it....?

Alan

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27 May 2009 18:19 #15 by Fishowner (Gavin fishowner)
Chop it up and throw it in Alan. Sorry to hear about the Ram. Ive one in a similar senario but age could the problem on her.

Gavin

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27 May 2009 18:44 #16 by alkiely (alan kiely)
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Fishowner wrote:

Chop it up and throw it in Alan. Sorry to hear about the Ram. Ive one in a similar senario but age could the problem on her.

Gavin


Its poxy alright, tried everything with mine over the last 6 weeks they were skinny when i got them, i just think that it was too much for him in the end, he was abit older than the rest they where young shame was a lovely fish.

Hope yours pull through

Alan

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27 May 2009 18:49 #17 by Fishowner (Gavin fishowner)
Yeah unfortuantely rams can be tempermental fish at the best of times. Often they tend to fade after quite a few spawnings. I know a few people who have found this in their fish also. Nonetheless they are gorgeous fish with a great personality, and no fear at all on them esp when defending spawnings, guess they are a chilid though after all!!

Gavin

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27 May 2009 20:12 #18 by ted30 (Damo Mac an Bhaird)
A lot of Bolivian Rams I've seen in pet shops are not in good condition. I think the reason could be that staff feed flake which is no good for Bolivian rams. They need high protein food that sinks to the bottom. They are after all bottom feeders. With some veg and frozen/live food. I lost five rams which I bought from numerous pet shops that were in bad condition. I thought I could bring them home and get them back to good health. Another thing I've found is a lot of them are infested with intestinal worms which further damages the health of the fish. I'm not surprised you've had deaths really. It's certainly heart breaking:(

Location: Carrickmacross, County Monaghan

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27 May 2009 20:48 #19 by alkiely (alan kiely)
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ted30 wrote:

A lot of Bolivian Rams I've seen in pet shops are not in good condition. I think the reason could be that staff feed flake which is no good for Bolivian rams. They need high protein food that sinks to the bottom. They are after all bottom feeders. With some veg and frozen/live food. I lost five rams which I bought from numerous pet shops that were in bad condition. I thought I could bring them home and get them back to good health. Another thing I've found is a lot of them are infested with intestinal worms which further damages the health of the fish. I'm not surprised you've had deaths really. It's certainly heart breaking:(


As ive said before i got my first 5 which all died within 3 days, these looked better but skinny

Ted can you tell me what you are feeding urs please...?

Ive tried some many types of food, was even told today in a pet shop to feed them terrapin food.....?:unsure:

Alan

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27 May 2009 21:20 #20 by Fishowner (Gavin fishowner)
They like bloodworms, mine also life New life spectrum food. Brine shrimp. All the usual stuff, I dont know why yours aren't taking food for you. Seems strange, but fish can be picky sometimes, don't know why but thats how they do it.

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27 May 2009 21:34 #21 by ted30 (Damo Mac an Bhaird)
alkiely wrote:

As ive said before i got my first 5 which all died within 3 days, these looked better but skinny

Ted can you tell me what you are feeding urs please...?

Ive tried some many types of food, was even told today in a pet shop to feed them terrapin food.....?:unsure:

Alan


A staple diet of New life spectrum and Hikari Cichlid gold. Once a week frozen Bloodworm or brine shrimp and Peas/sweetcorn. Spirulina algae wafers once a week. Terapin food - I don't think so. My god who told you that. There's liquids you can get too soak food in to make them more attractive. I'm just unsure where you can get them.

Location: Carrickmacross, County Monaghan

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