Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)
Hi,
John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.
I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.
With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.
I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.
If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.
I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.
I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.
Thank you
Darragh Sherwin
WHAT RECESSION????????????
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Rules state..."If you wish to post about a specific retailer, do not mention their name and only refer to the retailer in the 3rd party".
Post amended accordingly.
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Prices have nearly doubled for a few I say and all prices were up.
Rediculous. Won't be stopping there till prices drop. Thing is, I would have spent maybe €70 €80 as I usually do, but hey, if they don't want my cash there are many many other places and people with much cheaper healthier cleaner fish&tanks.
Dead fish being eated too, who wants fish that have fed off possibly diseased fish. Was not quiet in store about it either.
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I was there with a few customers around me, mothers with kids n the like, with noone to assist them in any way regarding the purchasing of their fish. They've a few tanks, enough to justify a full time person that looks after them as this is not happening currently with one or two people running around trying to do everything, jack of all, master of none scenario. I am not having a pop at staff for the record.
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Just boycott via word of mouth, end of.
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Personal boycott is the way to go, but sadly not every Fishkeeper in Ireland is either a Forum member or reader.
There is no way these sorts of people can be stopped from selling Fish - but the economics of not selling any fish week in, week out would soon make them realise something's 'up' and they would be faced with either stopping the sale of fish altogether or having to look into why no-one was buying them!
This, in an ideal world would be the solution to poorly kept and poor quality livestock. But on the issue of price increases - that's a different matter entirely. The solution is rather the same as you have said Padraig - walk away - vote with your feet. Like Seamus says - find a good LFS and stick with it,
I personally am not very fond of these 'Pet Superstores' there is one within a half-hour drive from me (probably a little further, driving at the speed I do now) - the closest outlet to me by far - but I only ever bought fish in there on two occasions, both time in the hope they 'might just' be OK but neither time were they!!! So I'm forced to either go West or East for hours at a time when I want to buy any fish, but I will say that my chosen shops are always worth the time taken to get to! And all are Forum Sponsors too, coincidentally.
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I like all serious fishkeepers value my fish, my tank & the environment I keep them in & don't mind spending money on my passion but within reason.
Any body that remembers the shop on the corner where staff know your name & you know theirs will also remember the service & friendliness that came with those shops:)

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It's unfortunate that not every fishkeeper is on this site. if they were, I'm sure these LFS would have to change their attitudes pretty fast!
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It would be handy for them to at least have a modicum of Fish Keeping knowledge before they start working in the Fish Departments!
A couple of years back I can remember the slating a large Petstore in Dublin was getting and it would have appeared that this was little better than no good at all, but thanks to them getting advice (actually from Clubs and Forum) they turned around completely and I never hear a bad word said against them now.
I can think of another, the Fish department of which is run by a well-known and respected Forum regular, which also has great recommendations for it.
But, to price increases - a different issue entirely. I was in retail myself many years ago and can tell you that not all (notice I'm saying "not all") price increases are outright profiteering. Much of the dry goods for sale here (and the 'wet' stuff too) comes from the UK and if wholesale prices rise then in these troubled times the retail price has to rise as well, and remember - it's pro rata. In other words, if an item's wholesale price rises then so does the VAT and, by a relative amount, the mark-up too.
But, for prices to rise far out of proportion - that sounds like just outright profiteering to me and the shops engaging in this practice should be boycotted.
We are, after all, as Padraig initially said,in a recession still (despite what the politicians are trying to suggest) and money's tight for us consumers too. €10 on a €25 fish sounds like outright liberty-taking to me!!!
John
ps, note to Padraig, I understand your anger and was in no way trying to diminish it. I only amended your post to concur with existing rules.
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Regards Alan..
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From the sounds of it they have no experience with aquatics but on the positive side it is good to see that the marine tanks have been cleaned up & the dead fish problem sorted out.
The prices are outright crazy & will have to drop if they are to do any business & I'm sure they will.
More than likely the actions of an ambitious manager attempting to impress by making the bottom line look good without realising the consequences.
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It would appear that he is not really communicating with his staff too well either as the guy I bought the fish of yesterday was none to happy to convey the news that the prices were going up, it would appear that the general reaction to this increase is not being well received from other customers.



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I quote from a diffferent forum: "Only a maniac woulds buy their pets there"
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A licensing system i think would do wonders, shops apply for a license to keep all animals, not just fish as i have seen rabbits, rodents and birds kept in bad shape too. Apply for a different license depending on the animals your selling. An inspection every 3 months or so to keep things in order. Well, that's how i would do it

There always seems to be a discussion about poor LFS and conditions, the average person doesn't see the problems, which i believe is the problem. Just like the average person wouldn't notice poor plastering, but being in the trade i would.
Edit* I may have steered off topic a bit which was originally about pricing.
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The one good thing about a recession is that generally speaking quality will win through & all of these so called suppliers who try to take advantage & charge through the nose will ultimately fall on their own sword, the good guys will still be around hopefully when these guys fall!!!!!!!!!!!!!







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