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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

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16 May 2010 08:13 #1 by padraigr (Padraig Rooney)
Just got up switched the lights on in the tank & found one of my yellow labs dead! Murdered overnight with my salvini munching on its remains. I was just saying yesterday it was quite a while since I had one of these casualties & then low & behold it happens again. Two questions come to mind why are the eyes always the 1st things to be consumed & why do these things always tend to happen after dark. I don't know who the culprit is I would say the salvini but the jury is out. The rest of the tank is full of malawis & generally get on very well. Anybody any words of wisdom????? :( :( :( :( :(

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16 May 2010 08:35 #2 by Ieva star (Ieva Fogta)

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16 May 2010 11:01 #3 by JohnH (John)
Not "words of wisdom" but here's a bit of speculation:
Salvini can be pretty aggressive - but are hardly out and out predators like, for instance, Jaguar Cichlids to name but one Central American which is.
Can you tell us was the now-dead Lab in full health yesterday? ie was it behaving normally? I'm wondering if it was just a fish which died overnight from natural causes and had become a source of food this morning.

As to why the eyes are the first item eaten, it's the eyes which are the softest part of any fish so would offer a 'way in' to the rest of the internals of the corpse.

Just a couple of thoughts.
I hope you get to the bottom of the loss.

I suppose it should be mentioned that Central American Cichlids do not in nature frequent the sort of hard high pH water that is found in Lake Malawi but they are hardly very happy in softer low pH water of Amazonian Cichlids either. Although I have never tried it myself I have read of people keeping Centrals and Malawis together but I would suggest it's hardly an ideal mix...no suggestion that this has anything to do with your loss - just pointing it out.
John

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16 May 2010 12:50 #4 by Denis (Denis Goulding)
Lots of predators hunt at night or in the twilight hours and fish are no different.
We often catch pike at night as we do eels.
Sorry to hear about ur fish.
Regards,
Denis

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16 May 2010 13:52 #5 by 2poc (2poc)
Replied by 2poc (2poc) on topic Re:Not so nice surprise on Sunday morning
JohnH wrote:

Not "words of wisdom" but here's a bit of speculation:
Salvini can be pretty aggressive - but are hardly out and out predators like, for instance, Jaguar Cichlids to name but one Central American which is.
Can you tell us was the now-dead Lab in full health yesterday? ie was it behaving normally? I'm wondering if it was just a fish which died overnight from natural causes and had become a source of food this morning.

As to why the eyes are the first item eaten, it's the eyes which are the softest part of any fish so would offer a 'way in' to the rest of the internals of the corpse.

Just a couple of thoughts.
I hope you get to the bottom of the loss.

I suppose it should be mentioned that Central American Cichlids do not in nature frequent the sort of hard high pH water that is found in Lake Malawi but they are hardly very happy in softer low pH water of Amazonian Cichlids either. Although I have never tried it myself I have read of people keeping Centrals and Malawis together but I would suggest it's hardly an ideal mix...no suggestion that this has anything to do with your loss - just pointing it out.
John


I find Central American cichlids and Africans mix quite well. They are very tolerant of different water chemistry and are found naturally in water with PH between 7 and 8.
I keep my PH at around 7.6 to 7.8 which suits both species fine.

Salvini are pretty small as centrals go so I wouldnt imagine they'd actively "hunt" the labs. What size was the lab and what size are the salvini?

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16 May 2010 16:46 #6 by padraigr (Padraig Rooney)
The salvini is about 6 inches & the lab was probably 2 and a half inches. I do have a number of other malawis which are a lot smaller & never had any trouble. Also just to answer an earlier reply the lab in question was not sick as I was watching them for 10-15 minutes last night & everything seemed normal, I guess it was just 1 of those things!!!

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