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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

Killifish....Fundulopanchax sjoestedti

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07 Aug 2010 15:38 #1 by igmillichip (ian millichip)
aka Aphyosemion sjoestedti (the blue gularis).

Great old fashioned favourite killifish; and good to see some of these in a shop here.

...so being old fashioned, and being one who likes to be taken back to the paste-times...I got some.

Easy to keep and breed (if the male isn't too brutish), and a good killifish that will mix with robust fish that it can't bully, eat (it is a rather large killifish with a big mouth) or be eaten by.

Anyone else who loves the good olde fashioned favourites keep these? (I have my suspicions about whom might keep these B) )

Beautiful fish...even for non-killi fans who have the right fish to mix.

ian

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07 Aug 2010 17:15 #2 by Puddlefish (Colin McCourt)
HUGE FISH :ohmy:
14cms. (Except for Dwarf Reds).
Any Location Code on these Ian
What are the prices like.
ATB
C

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07 Aug 2010 21:48 #3 by igmillichip (ian millichip)
Puddlefish wrote:

HUGE FISH :ohmy:
14cms. (Except for Dwarf Reds).
Any Location Code on these Ian
What are the prices like.
ATB
C


Oh yeah....a 6 inch killifish is something to behold.

So, I'll cutting up earthworm.

The ones I got today....on the Longmile actually...where a nice size (about 2 inches maybe)and 6 euro each.

Even at that size, they can do some pretty good gymnastics (hence my tanks have quite low water and tight-fitting lids).

There's no location code with them unfortunately, but at 6 euro and infrequency at which I've seen these....I didn't really care, just a nice fish.


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08 Aug 2010 05:39 - 08 Aug 2010 05:40 #4 by Puddlefish (Colin McCourt)
At €12 a pair Ian, that's a pretty reasonable price for such a beautiful fish. (location codes aside)
I have bred these in the past (Ndian population). Never used peat though as it was too messy with such large fish. Very large sunken mops worked better for me, the eggs are sort of semi adhesive and can be lifted from the breeding tank with the aid of a plastic carton.
Maybe get some eggs/fry from you at a later date (after the upgrade/expansion) to act as a garbage can for any substandard fish I'm rearing:laugh:
Good luck with them, keep us informed how your getting on.
Regards
C
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08 Aug 2010 10:22 #5 by igmillichip (ian millichip)
I think that at 6 euro each and given that they came through the normal wholesale route, I wouldn't have trusted any locale details if given (and would not have paid any added premium either!!).

I may pop out today and get a few extra females as the males can be bruts; that is the only concern with them.

The last time I kept these was back in the late 70s (or the interface with early 80s...my memory defies me at times) when I was a bit more into killifish. [actually come to think of it, it may been about 1982 when I was trying to impress my wife-to-be with these things that when water is added fish appear within minutes....yeah, she probably thought she'd hooked herself a nutter B) )

If I have time to give them a good space for breeding, then there will be stuff available (what would I do with a load of gulares anyway?). Nice thing about these is that they can have a very good lifespan so breeding is not always as urgent as with other killies (eg Nothos) and can be used in a nicely set-up community of the right fish.

Puddlefish, do you have any of the south american 'killies'? I had my phase with them (that is when they arrived alive of course) as I'm interested in the jaw structure (evolution and all that stuff).

ian

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08 Aug 2010 10:48 - 08 Aug 2010 10:53 #6 by Puddlefish (Colin McCourt)
Hi Ian,
I take it you've either heard of or used Aquabid in the past.
You can try and sell your surplus stock eggs/fish on there under the correct section.
Simplicity in itself.
I keep mainly Rivulus species now. Concentrating mainly on Xiphidius.
I do have many many XIP & Punctatus eggs and fry on at the moment, and I'm heading over for the BKA Convention in September and hope to pick up a few nice specimens there. I'm currently refitting my fish emporium:laugh: so there should be more room for growing out tanks.
I always had a soft spot for (Cynolebias)Simpsonichthys boitonei ever since an old friend (Biology Lecturer from Leeds University). Kept them back in the early eighties. I have subsequently re-acquired some eggs, so hopefully I can re-establish my affection for these. There are some belting Simpsonichthys around today like magnificus etc.
Back then I sucessfully bred, the then named Cynolebias nigripinnis, constanciae, whitei, bellotti & adloffi, these were the only SA annuals I was associated with. Then XIP was imported by Fredrich Bitter and I was hooked.

Yeah it would be wise Ian to acquire more female SJO whilst they are available as you rightfully said the males can be extremely hard drivin.

ATB
C
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08 Aug 2010 11:15 #7 by igmillichip (ian millichip)
My goodness, it seems like some fuzzy characters got into my previous post....I wasn't using bad language anywhere.

Simpsonichthys are simply stunning.
The last order I made for some Simpsonichthys were for S.flammeus....but instead what arrived was S. magnificus (maybe even more stunning tha flammeus)....but they were dead on-arrival (and their colours dead were, sadly, even more spectacular than the live colours).

I'm not totally convincved by the classification of the Cynolebias/Simposnichthys etc clad....that's why I have interest in the jaws of these fish. (ah, it's a bit like cichlids....if you're a tooth-man then you get african cichlids)

There's been some recent reviews of the killi classifications....some I welcome, some I don't. But, we'll just have to wait another 50 years before someone puts them all back to how they were in 1977.B).

Wilson Costa is the man doing lots of work on trying to unravel these beauties (I have a few PDF files of research/classification papers here)

Rivulus have some very nice species, not a genus that I can recall seeing for sale in shops though.

I'm not familiar with Aquabid....I don't do any on-line stuff at all (cash-only for me). But may look that up as I don't have the in-person contacts I had when in the UK.

ian

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08 Aug 2010 11:42 - 08 Aug 2010 11:45 #8 by Puddlefish (Colin McCourt)
Hi Ian,
The late Col. Jorgen Scheel did a lot of neuromast, frontal scalation and ctenoidy work in old World rivulin species,
and catalogued a different array of patternations within the Asian & African species and to a certain extent Fundulus heteroclitus from northern America.
Classifications change all the time especially within rivulin species. Wilson Costa seems to be the leading light in this present day but he is not without his critics and a lot of changes he has made may well, as you say, revert back to their originals at some point.
I must admit I've glanced over this kind of thing but by no means am I as up on this subject matter as yourself interesting as it is.
Regards
C
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08 Aug 2010 18:58 #9 by Acara (Dave Walters)
The Simpsonichthys are simply stunning alright.I got a few specimens of Simpsonichthys sp. "Urucuia" from the Longmile Rd before it changed hands.They had lost most of the shipment,and I,stupidly,took the rest,knowing full well I shouldn't have,but they were just so stunning.Some were dead upon arrival at home,the others within a day.A shame,but I'm sure they'll reappear here at some stage.

always on the lookout for interesting corys.pm me if you know off any!

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08 Aug 2010 23:31 #10 by platty252 (Darren Dalton)
It's great to see some of the shops getting in killies. Brittis,seahorse,longmile,fintastic... to name a few.

I had seen the sjoestedti but had no room for them. They were a little washed looking in the shop and it would be great if someone can post a pic of the one's they got once they have settled. I know a coupe of forum members picked some up.

Ian i had Nematolebias papiliferrus 'IONA' untill recently. I have some eggs from them so i will give you a shout in a couple of months when i start hatching some of the eggs.

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09 Aug 2010 09:57 #11 by igmillichip (ian millichip)
platty252 wrote:

It's great to see some of the shops getting in killies. Brittis,seahorse,longmile,fintastic... to name a few.

I had seen the sjoestedti but had no room for them. They were a little washed looking in the shop and it would be great if someone can post a pic of the one's they got once they have settled. I know a coupe of forum members picked some up.

Ian i had Nematolebias papiliferrus 'IONA' untill recently. I have some eggs from them so i will give you a shout in a couple of months when i start hatching some of the eggs.


That would be cool; I'll make some more room for some more killis then.

With a bit of feeding up, I recon the sjeoestedtis will come-up fine. Not sure if the colouration will be great though (never a guarantee on that).
I went back to pick up an extra female yesterday.
I wouldn't have touched washed-out Notho's, but at least these guys are eating.

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10 Aug 2010 08:14 #12 by daveyw (david whitham)
I was looking at these beatiful fish but I read that they can be quite agressive would they mix well with rams ?

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10 Aug 2010 09:35 #13 by igmillichip (ian millichip)
Daveyw, yep they are aggressive and quite large (6 inches for a killi is large).

If you have the right communinity tanks, these are one of the few killies that will work well in a community tank....even though they are notoriously aggressive.

I've never tried them with Rams, but they do mix quite nicely with fish that are big enough and don't get 'in their space' such as african brown knifefish, larger Corydoras, even hatchet fish (oddly), congo tetras and some smaller cichlids (eg Kribs) that can take care of themselves without being too brutish.

Although Rams can take care of themselves pretty well, I'm not sure that I would recommend keeping them together (or even hint that they will work well).
Maybe the problem would be the aggressive nature of Rams.....they may simple try and try to engage something in battle but may come out the battered (a bit like Discus fish aggressive is continual, and maybe wouldn't learn that continually taking on a full size Green Terror is not an idea).

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10 Aug 2010 13:14 #14 by louis (David Knowles)
I had a golden wonder killi for nearly 2 years. Beautiful fish. unfortunately died 3 weeks ago. I was told that they prefer room temperature tanks.Do you think 2 years is a short lifespan for a killi. I'd love to get another, and will call to the Longmile,but dont want to put him into the wrong environment

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10 Aug 2010 15:49 #15 by igmillichip (ian millichip)
louis wrote:

I had a golden wonder killi for nearly 2 years. Beautiful fish. unfortunately died 3 weeks ago. I was told that they prefer room temperature tanks.Do you think 2 years is a short lifespan for a killi. I'd love to get another, and will call to the Longmile,but dont want to put him into the wrong environment


Killi lifespan would not generally be the longest even at the best of times.
It depends upon the species, and the environment.

Some species are ‘programmed’ to live a short life-span, and will generally be ‘true annual fish’; some species, however, tend to be annual in the wilds after their pools dry-up.

Killis such as Nothobranus rachovii tend to start to get very old very quickly not long after spawning….2 weeks later a 3 month old fish may start to look like a 150 year old trout.
I’m not too sure the world record for the Blue Gularis, but they can live a few years.

As for temperature…..there is some debate on that one. Many killies will tolerate a lowish temperature, but it does depend on what is room temperature.

With a good feeding to get the blue gularis to a good size, they are good starter killifish (so long as you have a good fitting lid).

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