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Hi,
John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.
I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.
With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.
I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.
If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.
I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.
I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.
Thank you
Darragh Sherwin
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10 Jan 2011 20:47 #1
by jenko (Keith Jenkinson)
Hi guys
Got an assassin snail at the weekend to help with my ramshorn outbreak and have 2 questions
1) Is 1 enough in a 90litre tank to deal with a snail outbreak?
2) Does anyone know if they bury themselves in subtrate as
I have barely seen him/her since I got them and can't seem to find them
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10 Jan 2011 20:49 #2
by eire1978 (eire1978)
it depends on how many snails uhave i think they eat a snail a day also they do bury themselfs alot in the subsrate
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10 Jan 2011 20:53 #3
by Gerry The Chip (Gerard)
Iv seen them hide away in the substrate also, but u dont want too many in ur tank because the can die easy enough if there no more snails to feed on, Im not sure if they eat anything else.
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10 Jan 2011 21:14 #4
by joey (joe watson)
they will hide if there is a short supply of food, and will also eat dead fish, frozen foods and sometimes meaty sinking pellets. can never have too many. if you think they are not doing a great job then get more, 1 will have some control but if the snails are breeding too fast you need more to keep up
Location: Portlaoise, Midlands
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10 Jan 2011 21:16 - 10 Jan 2011 21:17 #5
by stretnik (stretnik)
Have to say Gerry, not impressed, I thought they took all Snails as food, not so, yes, they destroyed pond type Snails but I just received ten Clown Loach to rid my Tank of these......
Kev.
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10 Jan 2011 21:24 #6
by Gerry The Chip (Gerard)
Thats one funky picture Kev,
I wasnt sure if it was the clown loach of the horse face loach that ate the snails, Do u find them better than the assisan snails Kev?
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10 Jan 2011 21:36 #7
by stretnik (stretnik)
Always have Gerry, they are the expensive alternative but dependable and are voracious. I got Ten 2 inchers and they are patrolling everywhere, btw, anyone have true knowledge of whether they eat Shrimp?
Kev.
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10 Jan 2011 21:38 #8
by sheag35 (Seamus Gillespie)
assassin snails rock in my books, i had a very heavily infested tank with malaysian trumpets, put in two assassins but they couldnt keep up with the rate these mts bred at, so got and additional 6 now virtually no mts and now 15 assissins they are breeding regularly for me so much so i have given a few to mates to help with their snail problems and they are breeding for them, they do bury regularly maybe going after the mts in the substrate, but superb snails and a more natural way of snail eradication than chemicals
Fishkeeping the Only way to get wet and wild
currently 25 tanks, and breeding is the aim of everything i keep
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10 Jan 2011 21:41 #9
by Gerry The Chip (Gerard)
Cool, lovely fish though well worth it, Iv never seen them actually eat shrimp but hav read that they do, Im sure Mark could may the answer he has an army of both shrimp and clowns
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10 Jan 2011 21:41 #10
by stretnik (stretnik)
But do they tackle all Snails with the same success because my Assassins demolished one type and left the ones in the above pic and I have 30 Assassins or more.
Kev.
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10 Jan 2011 23:04 #11
by Katherine (Katarzyna Glebocka)
Generally, it is said that there should be 1 assassin snail per 10 to 30 liters of water but the population of snails you want to get rid off or control. Assassin snails do their job very well but they need time. I would add some additional ones to work for you. In my previous tank (84 l) I had 9 of them and was satisfied with the results of their work. Now, I know I should increase their number.
I would be carefull with clown loach - as far as I know they grow up up to 30/40 cm, so your tank will be too small for them soon. I do not know what fish you have in your tank, but my guppies, rasboras and tetras were terrorized by the presense of flying foxes that reached 10 cms and breath deaply when I gave flying foxes away.
Kev, maybe you had LAZYssin snails instead of beutiful helenas?
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10 Jan 2011 23:21 #12
by stretnik (stretnik)
Nah, thanks K but the Clowns are just a cleaning crew till I break down the Tank to ready it and it's residents for sale, they have eaten every other Snail so laziness isn't a problem, they just Won't touch the Snails in the Picture I posted, I am watching the Clowns munch away right now and it's great, I just wanted to know why the Assassins won't eat the Snails that are in the picture that's all.
Kev.
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10 Jan 2011 23:33 #13
by Katherine (Katarzyna Glebocka)
Kev, it happens. My friend's anentome helenas were more interested in Melanoides tuberculata (don't know English name) than in ramshorn snails. They had different taste
or needed to change their diet!
But i think if there is lack of other snails, they will take care of these, too.
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10 Jan 2011 23:35 #14
by Fishowner (Gavin fishowner)
Hi Kev,
Ive had similar type snails as those ones and I must say my assassins wiped them out. I was actually looking at the tank tonight (as I introduced 3 Pseudomugil gertrudae),and I counted at least 20 snails just in full view. At this rate I will need to start giving some away albeit many of them are very small. They are a great snail. They will eat uneaten food,and they are particularly fond of bloodworms. They also go into the substrate,particularly when young,as far as I know they burrow into the substrate as youngsters to avoid being eaten and emerge when they are a small bit older.
Ive had them in my external filter also,no idea how they got there but fine and big and doing well in their when I found them! I plonked them in the tank again. I still find some other snails but its mainly the dead shells of them after the assassins have been through them. I cant recommend them enough.
Im guessing Kev that the snails in the pic are very similar to mine,but if you have 30 in the tank then surely they would be eating them so Im guessing they must be a different type of snail. Overfeeding can also prevent them from hunting other snails.(hunting being a rather strange word when you consider the pace of snails!).
Gavin
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16 Jan 2011 21:22 #16
by Fishowner (Gavin fishowner)
Katherine,
Can you pm me your address again,it appears some of the postings and PM's have been lost recently with the site down. I had hoped to sent the assassins this week,but it will be another week. Hope thats ok.
Gavin
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