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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)
Hi,
John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.
I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.
With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.
I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.
If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.
I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.
I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.
Thank you
Darragh Sherwin
wat other types off fish would go well with these?
- BlueRam (Sean Crowe)
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this is the fish that i already have in the tank thanks for youe help
5 x silver dollers 2=(S) 3=(L)
1 x mollys
2 x flyin fox algae eaters
1 x Blue Gourami (L)
2 x pearl Gourami (L)
3 x salt and pepper catfish (M)
1 x common plec XXL
1 x swordtail fish
1 x bala shark (M)
1 x redtail shark (XL)
1 x rainbow shark (S)
2 x albino shark
1 x guppy
1 x Black Phantom Tetra
2 x glass tetra
3 x angles (M)
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you could get some more Black phantom tetra, and glass tetra. they would prefer being in group.
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the silver dollars would nearly fill a 260ltr alone when fully grown, (which wont take long)
mixing so many sharks ie. redtail & rainbows will only end in tears:-((
id only recommend one per tank, as the dominant one will more than likely kill the others,
as far as tetra's its always better to have one larger school of one type, rather than odd ones,
will always do better in groups, also i think look alot better too.
these are my thoughts on it anyway,
what sort of set up do you have? or are you planning to do a planted set up?
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The tank does look like a pick-n-mix-and-a-few-groups-of-10-now-standing-at-just-one type of thing.
I don't see a problem in having so many different species of fish in a tank (although most of mine are species-only tanks), but the more different sorts the more you could be running into compatibility problems.
It isn't really my place to say which fish you should keep or not keep, but if you plan on moving to discus there are few in your tank already that will do with discus.....but there are some that I'd move out without hesitation.
....and my philosophy is if the fish you want are not compatible then buy them anyway and simply set-up another tank.

How big is the XXL pleco BTW? is it xxl or just a largish fish?
I said on your intro thread that I think the silver dollars and lace gouramis are a good choice of fish....I stick with them then you have a pretty large selection of very nice fish that will work well (and, of course there are fish that won't).
Large phantoms and large emperor tetras would be great....if they are too small then a silver dollar may accidentally come across one when taking a dive for a piece of food. Silver dollars are big boisterous fish...and at full size there shear darting around is the main hazard for others. But in a nicely set-up tank that darting around can be kept to a minimum.
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never had a pick-n-mix EVER
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Well there you go......the angel emoticon is well deserved.

What fish do you keep Phea2.....ooooooh, and whilst I'm here: welcome aboard the ITFS forum.
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hold on, never went for more than 5 varieties... huh, i think



Also doing a transition on my 280L tank. 8 gouramies are going, adding in 20 neons plus 5 Black widow.

P.s, i'm selling my Honey gouramies if you are interested..

am i allow to sent a link of my thread in the other Forum?
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How would anyone guess that I quite like honey gouramis. Ummm. interesting.
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i am thinkin off gettin one or two discus but i would like to know some more type so all replys would be very great full thanks sean
from your post I conclude that not many know about fishkeeping. Please read about keeping discus, before you put them to your "fish soup"
. Discus are not guppies(example), they need high temperatures(270C - 310C) and perfect water!!!!!, otherwise the event, you can just throw them in the toilet (they will suffer less there than in your tank)
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chris you are as about as subtle as a sledge hammer..!!



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my tank does have perfect water and is also at 27c think they would be better in my tank cause the toilet water wouldnt be perfect water and temp wouldnt be as high
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What do you mean by perfect water? (this guy is going to hate me)

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my tank does have perfect water and is also at 27c think they would be better in my tank cause the toilet water wouldnt be perfect water and temp wouldnt be as high
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What do you mean by perfect water? (this guy is going to hate me)
It means "Honey Gourami water" in other words.
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Please try not to hijack this thread.
You can post a "hello post" in the "introduce yourself" section on the forum and tell us all about your current tank and projects

Thanks - Valerie

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I've heard Honey gouramis would survive in muddy water, so there you go..
It doesn't matter how muddy the water....they need the same good water conditions as S. aequifasciata discus and rams, but not as strict as chocolate gouramis and wild S.discus discus or carnegelia hatchet fish etc.
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AND....back to the original posters thread topic.
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dont be put off by people saying about incompatibilities - there are no hard and fast rules when mixing fish and Lord know's i wont have a biotope even if i intend to (so far my fish mix are down to 2 continents - some folk set up biotopes of only fish from the same river. talk about obsessive

the one criticism i have is that the red-tailed and rainbow shark will fight to the death - if not now then when they get bigger (my rainbow is 7" and sometimes does a wee dash at the SAE's now but only to scare them to the other side of the tank) they get territorial, especially the red-tailed, towards theirown species, and can be aggressive or harrass members of their own family (cyprinids). this does vary with individual fish but most keepers find this the case.
sorry i know i said one but the 2nd is just to say the bala shark ideally should be in a school of minimum 4, and in a 4' tank minimum as they can get to well over 10" (mine were 9" after a year and half)
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Discus - in with that mix? Come off it!
Three Angels would be one reason not to try to add Discus - if these are established fish the Discus would be hassled and harried to hiding behind - or trying to get inside - your aeroplane!
27deg is NOT suitable for Discus, these are fish which have artificially become acclimatised for generations to a 30deg plus temperature, this keeps internal nasties at bay as they cannot exist at such high constant temperatures!
If you're serious about Discus - read up about them - then read more!
Get rid of all the other fish and get your water set right for the Discus, if you aren't serious about the Discus forget them until you have more experience at fishkeeping in general and only then think again about stocking Discus.
Oh yes, and please stop answering two+ month-old posts looking for freebies. If you are after trawling back and troubling sellers do it by PM! (AND THIS ALSO APPLIES TO SOME OTHERS WHO HAVE ONLY JOINED TO DO THE SAME).
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