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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

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24 Mar 2014 21:39 #1 by Miamiheat (Stephane Lemaire)
I discovered 2 things last night:

1. A pair of angelfish has formed.
2. They spawned on a big leaf.

Today they moved a lot of the eggs to a different leaf, I suppose to protect them better as they are in a heavily stocked tank.

Now, most of the eggs have hatched and I have wigglers shaking around.

I don't think they stand a chance in the community tank: other fish + filtration intake does not have a sponge.

Question 1 is can i cut the leaf and transfer these wigglers into a tank of their own, without parents? Just an air stone and a heater on bare bottom?
2. Will they survive like that?
3. what do i feed these little things? (i have some liquifry would that do?)

thanks in advance

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24 Mar 2014 22:37 #2 by JohnH (John)
Replied by JohnH (John) on topic angelfish wigglers
It's an option, especially for them being so advanced.

Absolute cleanliness is quite essential if you move the leaf, daily small water changes can be very useful - if not essential. The change water needs to be the same in every way (as best as you're able to make it) with temperature being highest consideration.
You would need to set the airstone in such a way as to try to emulate the adults' fanning of the eggs - without setting up so much of a torrent that drives the fry everywhere.

As to feeding them - only once they are free-swimming and searching for food - liquifry is 'sort of' OK as a first food source, but in my view not totally adequate.
Newly-hatched brine shrimps - or...send down to Joemc for cultures of microworms, they'll be excellent as a first follow-on food and his worm cultures are perfect for being able to feed from on the day of arrival.

Good luck with the fry and please keep the Forum informed of their progress.

John

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27 Mar 2014 21:15 - 27 Mar 2014 21:16 #3 by Miamiheat (Stephane Lemaire)

i do think they are doomed as i wont be around this weekend:
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28 Mar 2014 14:28 #4 by Miamiheat (Stephane Lemaire)
OK now I am worried.
I must have 200 free swimmers in a small nano cube. I fed them liquifry this morning.
But I will be away until sunday night.
Any idea how i keep them alive without feeding for 2 days?

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28 Mar 2014 14:54 - 28 Mar 2014 16:21 #5 by JohnH (John)
Replied by JohnH (John) on topic angelfish wigglers
Is there a chance you have a sponge filter (one which is running)? If you could transfer this over the bulk of the fry will graze upon that and you shouldn't come home to too many losses.
Ironically had you sent for a microworm culture you would have been able to put some in - they would live (until eaten) in the tank.
Does anyone local to you have some to help Miami out?

Sadly I'm just too far away to be able to help here.

I fear you're going to have to put in a couple of drips of Liquifry just on your point of leaving and hope for the best (unless someone can help you out locally).

A few plant leaves might give them something to 'nibble' at - not the leaves themselves, but the organisms living on them.

Perhaps someone else can offer a less tentative suggestion, or offer help in some other way?

John

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28 Mar 2014 15:52 #6 by Miamiheat (Stephane Lemaire)
Thanks John.
I think we should be OK. I did place a mature sponge filter in there this morning. I will add a couple of leaves and a drip of liquifry.
we'll see what happens :)

Cheers,



Is there a chance you have a sponge filter (one which is running)? If you could transfer this over the bulk of the fry will graze upon that and you shouldn't come home to too many losses.
Ironically had to sent for a microworm culture you would have been able to put some in - they would live (until eaten) in the tank.
Does anyone local to you have some to help Miami out?

Sadly I'm just too far away to be able to help here.

I fear you're going to have to put in a couple of drips of Liquifry just on your point of leaving and hope for the best (unless someone can help you out locally).

A few plant leaves might give them something to 'nibble' at - not the leaves themselves, but the organisms living on them.

Perhaps someone else can offer a less tentative suggestion, or offer help in some other way?

John

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28 Mar 2014 16:22 #7 by JohnH (John)
Replied by JohnH (John) on topic angelfish wigglers
Let's hope for the best then.

John

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30 Mar 2014 20:15 #8 by Miamiheat (Stephane Lemaire)
Quick update and relief: found my fry swimming happily :cheer:

Let's hope for the best then.

John

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30 Mar 2014 20:39 - 30 Mar 2014 20:41 #9 by JohnH (John)
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Great news - I'm really pleased for you (and for the fish, of course).

John

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