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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

Stocking up tropical tank - which fish?

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27 Nov 2007 18:23 #1 by ErinGoBrath (ErinGoBrath)
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Hi there,

New to these forums so go easy on me ;)

I currently have a 60l tank with three cichlids (or at least I think they are? See pics) and I'm looking to add new fish. The 3 have been in the tank almost 5 months now and appear to be healthy, vibrant and happy.

Can someone please advise what fish would be suitable to add to the tank at this point with them canabilising eachother? I'm aiming to add maybe another 2/3 now and another 2 in a few months.

I've attached some photo's of the 3 fish which I think may be an electric yellow labidochromis, a zebra cichlid and a red-shouldered peacock. If I'm wrong can anyone identify them?

Much appreciated!

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27 Nov 2007 20:14 #2 by serratus (Drew Latimer)
Hi Erin welcome to the forum!!!!
If your tank is 60L it is too small (IMO) for the species you listed as they are Malawi cichlids and are territoral!!!!
As they grow they are going to become more aggressive and you may end up with problems!!!! If you add any more cichlids it may start trouble!! I would normally tell customers min. size 100L (3ft) and at this small size you are restricted to certain species!!! Where are you based????

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27 Nov 2007 20:25 #3 by DaveyH (Dave Horan)
I was going to ask a similar question :-)...


If I buy 'small' angelfish will they live along side guppys etc or it that a strict NO! - I would like as much variety as possible with minimal maintainance... (wouldn't everyone)

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28 Nov 2007 00:40 #4 by Didihno (Didihno)
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hi Davey, welcome to both of you.
In my experience angels will eat anything that can get in their mouth, but everyone has a different opinion on that one.
For now, buying a small angel would be fine as the guppies would be too big for it to eat, but wait till it gets bigger!!!....

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28 Nov 2007 00:41 #5 by KenS (Ken Simpson)
Problem is that small angelfish don't stay small so you will eventually run into problems. Angelfish need a tall tank (at least 18\") and I wouldn't recommend putting one in anything smaller than 180l. They can also be agressive and territorial so wouldn't recommend keeping them with guppys.

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Ken.

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28 Nov 2007 00:48 #6 by KenS (Ken Simpson)
Erin,

I would recommend that you return these fish to the shop where you bought them or try and rehome them on the forum. I'm sure you don't want to hear that, but they are totally unsuited to the tank you have. Alternatively you could look at getting a bigger tank. I would recommend 180l minimum if you intend to add more Africians. The fish you list above are African Cichlids (as Serratus said) and should only be kept with other Africian Cichlids. They are agressive terrtiorial fish and will likely kill any non Africians.

Drop into one of the shops in the sponsors section who could recommend the many different fish that are more suited to your tank.

Regards,

Ken.

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28 Nov 2007 11:26 #7 by apistodiscus (apistodiscus)
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Erin,
totally agree with the previous posts. Your tank is way to small for the fish you have in it? I hope you don't mind me asking but did the shop where you bought your tank sell you these fish when you got your tank or did you add the fish after you had the tank for a while?
One way or another I find it somewhat surprising that the person who sold you the fish didn't tell you that mbunas should be kept in groups to avoid aggression issues and not as single specimen. I am no expert on Malawis but that much I know.

Holger

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28 Nov 2007 13:13 #8 by ErinGoBrath (ErinGoBrath)
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Cheers for the feedback lads. Very helpful indeed.

I purchased the tank several months ago and got the fish from a friend once the tank had cycled.

So I'm guessing that the 60l tank would be much more suited to community fish?

Would I need to recycle the tank if I change from African?

serratus, I'm based in Dublin city centre.

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28 Nov 2007 23:07 #9 by apistodiscus (apistodiscus)
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No need to cycle the tank again. The nictobactors and nitrosomas don't care where ammonia and nitrite comes from. Any fish dump is welcome :laugh:

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