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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

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23 Jul 2008 13:53 - 23 Jul 2008 13:54 #1 by ken2525 (ken bolster)
i was looking to buy a tank between 180L and 450L depending on what my floor can hold anyone have any ideas what i can put upstairs in my house
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23 Jul 2008 14:08 #2 by AndyT (Andy Taylor)
Not without seeing your house.

Timber floors or concrete? for a start.

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23 Jul 2008 14:12 #3 by ken2525 (ken bolster)
timber floors

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23 Jul 2008 14:51 #4 by AndyT (Andy Taylor)
Sorry, should have said, timber joists or concrete floors (just to be certain)..

A tank sitting on timber joists at right angles to the direction of the joists and against a wall, that is, at the point where the joist meets the wall, should be fine.
Personally, if it was my house, I wouldn't be happy with anything larger than a 150L in that situation.

A normal concrete slab floor, designed for 2.5 N/M should hold a 500L tank without a problem.

There are alot of factors to consider, such as how old your house is, how well built etc. It's hard to give one definitive answer without seeing the house

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23 Jul 2008 16:01 #5 by ken2525 (ken bolster)
the house is 3yeas old and was planing on putting it on the gable end of the house against the wall running in the opposit direction to the joists

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23 Jul 2008 16:21 #6 by AndyT (Andy Taylor)
Should be fine. How big of a tank you want to put there is a decision you'll have to make. I'm not a structural engineer. (How's that for a disclaimer!)

I'd put a sheet of heavy ply under the tank and stand to distribute the load a bit better, but apart from that, I don't know, all my floors are concrete.

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23 Jul 2008 16:30 #7 by ken2525 (ken bolster)
im not sure i wanted to just see what other people thought first

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23 Jul 2008 22:35 #8 by q547 (Joseph King)
is it a timber frame home or a traditional build?

If timber frame i'd put it at right angles to the joists and up against what ever wall that might be. This may not be the gable wall (depending on what way the joists run) Again if timber fram, contact the frame company who should be able to give you the load that the joists can take. They can take a surprising amount of weight if put in the right place. Also there may be an RSJ running in the floor and this would be ideal to carry a load. (I used to erect timber frame homes)

If its block built the same general rules apply but will depend on how well the carpenter did the joists.

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23 Jul 2008 23:31 #9 by platty252 (Darren Dalton)
I have 1x 180L, 3x 120L and various other smaller tanks upstairs.
As said above it depends on how the floors were put in and what they will hold.
Spread the weight with plywood as suggested and you should be fine with 120L - 180L on most floors.

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