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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

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07 Aug 2008 20:26 - 07 Aug 2008 20:35 #1 by dzbtrout (David Zarza)
Hi,

Quick question: when syphoning the substrate, how should be done?

A - Sticking the tube in the gravel and moving so that all dirt that may got through the gravel gets suck up

Or B - Just hovering the surface... disturbing not as much.

I am not sure how to do it. I have tried A most of the times as I am conscius of dirt decaying but also find that this way I almost have to rake all the gravel when i am finished to make it look like it was!

Any help would be much appreciated.

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07 Aug 2008 21:11 #2 by BJHillson (Brett Hillson)
I have a thin layer of sand (playsand) in my tank its about 3 cms thick. I have turbo snails that live in the sand and while they move though it they stop it from stagnating, they breed like wild fire but I very rarly see them. With thsi in mind I use B, and hover the pipe over the sand, this draws a small amount of sand into the bucket as the sand is very fine, but picks up everything else. It all depends on how much sand and how deap it is. I do have a realy cool syphon cleaner that has a plastic tube on the end and you dig this into the sand and it cleans deaper into the sand and gets all the rubbish out, but I dont use this now I have changed sand as mine is now alot finer and also there isnt as much of it.

I do recomend the turbo snails to any one with alot of sand.

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07 Aug 2008 21:11 #3 by pkearney (Phil Kearney)
you can make your own gravel cleaner by cutting a plastic
lemonade bottle in half & connecting a hose to the top.
when cleaning the gravel push the bottle right down to the
base of the tank.the mulm will come away but the gravel will only lift a few inches.it may take a few water changes to clean all the gravel so just do a small area at a time.
hope it works out/
phil.

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07 Aug 2008 21:15 #4 by john kelly (John Kelly)
that seems like a good idea must try it

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13 Aug 2008 03:01 #5 by LimerickBandit (Donal Doran)
If you don’t have live plants and its gravel not sand then its
A - Stick the tube in the gravel so that all dirt in the gravel gets sucked up
As the gravel lifts let it fall back to where it was when finished just level any big mounds
It will look natural again after a few hours.

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13 Aug 2008 09:04 #6 by adamireland (Adam Jackson)
Just a note on substrates that may help..:)

Sand is easier to look after than gravel, as it compacts on the bottom. Therefore not allowing particles of food and waste to get below the surface of the substrate and turning foul. So a light hovering over with a siphon is all that is needed to keep your water conditions in good nick. but beware your partners wrath of finding old siphoned sand everywhere :S

Gravel on the other hand leaves spaces in between that lets particles get down into the gravel which can turn very nasty without proper maintenance. When siphoning gravel you need to push the siphon head right into the gravel, aggitating and releasing all the nasty stuff that has become lodged inside. If you are using gravel, a thin layer is recommended for ease of use otherwise you will need a lot of time and patience to keep your tank tip-top.

Another note on siphoning.. when you plan the siphon, a good routine to follow is to wipe down the side of your tank first (bit of filter floss). This puts any of the nasties that are growing on your tanks walls into the water column so either the filter or your siphon can pick them up.. if you keep this up as part of your routine, it will solve most of any aquarists problems..

there are a number of bottom feeders that will help you clean substrates, but dont rely on them as they are no Aggie MacKenzie & Kim Woodburn:laugh:
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13 Aug 2008 10:33 #7 by dzbtrout (David Zarza)
LOL

Very ilustrative answer Adam. Thanks for that.

I was afraid that pushing down the siphon would do more harm than good.

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13 Aug 2008 10:42 #8 by adamireland (Adam Jackson)
cleaner the better for substrates..

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