Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)
Hi,
John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.
I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.
With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.
I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.
If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.
I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.
I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.
Thank you
Darragh Sherwin
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- dolf_peeters (Dolf Peeters)
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The 2 girl behind the counter said:
Girl1: ' how much are they?'
Girl2: ' they are €5/kg'
Girl1: ' how much do you think they weigh'
Girl2: (picks up the stones)'out 5kg i'd say'
Girl1: (turns to me) '€25 please'
Me:

Me: 'sounds alot'
Girl1: ' well, that 5kg you have there'
Me:

Girl1: 'thats €20'
Me:

I did compare the weight with a bag of dog food on the way out and they 2 I had were between 3-4kg, but *"&$* €20 for 2 rocks??!?!?!?
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Personally I use the local River rocks and ensure they are rounded,but for a chilid tank the smoothness wont be as much of a problem.Also if your getting specific rocks for the chilid tank then they you may want them specific colours etc to fit in with the rest of your tank.
Gavin
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its the realy rought 'cream' rocks if that makes any sence.
i'll throw up a few pics later
regards
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Also make sure you spread the weight of the rock evenly,in other words dont have them lying on the bottom of the glass with nothing under it as it can cause stress factures,but at 5kg per rock,you probably wont have that problem.
Gavin
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time me

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Yup a quick boil and then just pop them into the tank. Also for future reference,get your tank organised before you fill it,it makes it easier to arrange and also the rocks can effect your Ph and hardness of the water.
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Yeah those rocks are for a chilid type set up. Give them a quick boil I think in a saucepan and then pop them into the tank
Also make sure you spread the weight of the rock evenly,in other words dont have them lying on the bottom of the glass with nothing under it as it can cause stress factures,but at 5kg per rock,you probably wont have that problem.
Gavin
putting them on coral sand is ok tho is it?
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pics coming soon
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If your going for Malawi Chilids you could put in some clay pots or pipes,they provide good shelter for the fish,but again your not sure of the type of chilid yet.
For someone who has the tank up a week,its looking really well. Well done.
You planning on adding a background to the tank ?
Gavin
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when are you ready for fish?
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We decided not to put up a background, how else will the fish know where the light swith is?

probably wont add any more for now, apart from fish that is. feel very full at them moment.
thansk for the positive comments, lets hope it stays clean

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Juwel Trigon 190l tank is it?
Just trying to judge the size of the 2 bigger
rock ornaments you have either side of the rocks

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just a word of caution, i'd personally put the rocks on something then put the coral sand around the base of the rocks, do not just sit them on the coral sand..... why? well i did what you'd done and then put in cichlids, what i didnt know is how adept cichlids are at digging substrate up.. end result substrate dug away from in under the rocks, the rock tips over and big crack in the tank, your choice how you do it but i'd err on the side of caution. thankfully i learnt from that mistake so just passing it on
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it the 180juwel - the 2 ornaments, the taller is a bout 1ft I suppose
Cheers, GL with the tank

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Hey Dolf,
just a word of caution, i'd personally put the rocks on something then put the coral sand around the base of the rocks, do not just sit them on the coral sand..... why? well i did what you'd done and then put in cichlids, what i didnt know is how adept cichlids are at digging substrate up.. end result substrate dug away from in under the rocks, the rock tips over and big crack in the tank, your choice how you do it but i'd err on the side of caution. thankfully i learnt from that mistake so just passing it on
Seamus

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what do people put under their rocks to support them?
thank
Depends on the size of the rock but any hard plastic will do, all the better if it’s from food containers (Non Toxic)

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