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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

I think White Spot might be creeping in...

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14 Dec 2008 21:43 #1 by Lazerus (Caroline Mullally)
Hi all,

So, I've seven Rummy Nose tetras in a Quarantine tank coming up on 2 weeks now...but I've one lad in there for 3 weeks (his three other buddies from my first batch didn't survive).:unsure:

Now, last week I noticed one of the newer fellas had a white fungus around his mouth, so I treated the tank with Interpet No. 8 for anti fungus & fin rot on Saturday. It seems to be clearing up nicely.

I notice today however, that there is three white spots on the head of my oldest rummy nose (the one in there for 3 weeks), and one white spot on this fin.

Is this the beginnings of White spot? Is this the way it starts? I've never expeirence white spot before so I'm unsure.

If it is, can I treat white spot along with the anti-fungal dose...:woohoo:

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15 Dec 2008 10:57 #2 by mickeywallace (Michael Wallace Cath Woods)
Hi Lazerus
If you adjust the temp up to 30 this will control it but this should be done slowly to avoid stress. leave it at 30 till all signs have been gone for about a week then slowly reduce the temp back down again slowly over a couple of days. It also has the advantage of been able to be done while other treatments are working.

keep an eye on your water quality at this time it is very important

Mickey

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15 Dec 2008 12:55 #3 by Lazerus (Caroline Mullally)
Thanks!!

Actually its weird because all the white spots are gone now....hmmm.

They only last a few hours...perhaps not Ich after all.

I'll keep monitoring.

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15 Dec 2008 13:22 #4 by LimerickBandit (Donal Doran)
Lazerus keep an eye on it if you’re not sure if you have white spot don’t treat for it.
Do a web search on how whitespot cycle works so you have a better understanding of it


LB

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15 Dec 2008 19:05 #5 by mickeywallace (Michael Wallace Cath Woods)
Hi Lazerus,
using the adjusting temp for treating will be fine. it may be better to do so than wait till the possible reappearance.

while in most case it is advisable not to treat with two meds in this case it is ok.

1. your not using meds so no chance of chemical poisoning
2. this will seem like fish has entered a hot spell season which happens as i said before so long as you adjust temp up and down slowly it will be ok.

Whitespot is an opportunist it occurs due to stress, after disease or bad water quality. the fact you have been treating for fungal infection suggest it is a possibility so treat early.

do your search and get an understanding of white spot (freshwater) in fact if i remember right Derek Doyle wrote a piece here on it very very informative and clear explanation of the cycle.

i would in my own case after this has all cleared up use some organic aqua health treatment i find that it helps fish recover to full health quicker and aids prevention of further outbreaks/problems. but that is just my personal thinking.

Mickey

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15 Dec 2008 21:32 - 15 Dec 2008 21:33 #7 by Lazerus (Caroline Mullally)
Okay...well, I didn't do anything initially as the white spot appearred to be gone...but I notice its near the tail end of the fish now...like its moved location.

Its not on any of the other fish however.

Anyway, I did a water change there as there is a slight trace of ammonia (Thats another thing...my filter is in a mini-cycle mode, but thats another story :S )

I didn't add any more anti-fungal even though I only dosed the tank on Saturday, its just too awkward trying to work out half dosages.

So I'll up the temperature now.

Just one degree at a time over the next few days or will I do it over the next few hours till it reaches 30º?
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15 Dec 2008 21:43 #8 by LimerickBandit (Donal Doran)
You could move it a degree now and again in the morning and so on till it’s at 30 if you’re seeing the whitespot again start treatment do you have any product to treat for this?

LB

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15 Dec 2008 21:46 - 15 Dec 2008 21:48 #9 by Lazerus (Caroline Mullally)
No...not at the moment. I've a local shop about a 20mins drive away so I can get some though without too much trouble.

I'm still not convinced its Ich though because of the way its behaving. But I'm no expert!;)

I've upped the tank one degree now...& I'll do the same in the morning..it will be up to 29º then & I'll do the last move tomorrow evening to bring it up to 30º.

Cool.
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15 Dec 2008 21:47 #10 by Lazerus (Caroline Mullally)

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15 Dec 2008 21:48 #11 by Fishowner (Gavin fishowner)
Make sure there is plenty of surface agitation in the tank as the higher temps will reduce the oxygen content in the water.
Gavin

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15 Dec 2008 21:51 - 15 Dec 2008 21:52 #12 by Lazerus (Caroline Mullally)
No problem, I was doing that already for the anti-fungal treatment...so I've a bubble extension tube sticking out of my filter making a nice bit of aeration.

So glad I have a quarantine tank!!!

I would have been so upset if this all happened in the main tank.

The gas thing is, I've more fish in the quarantine tank than the main tank! But I plan to change all that...let hope these Rummys survive this little glich!:S
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15 Dec 2008 22:14 - 15 Dec 2008 22:15 #13 by Lazerus (Caroline Mullally)
Now isn’t' that strange...

I have a thermometer in my quarantine tank that read 27º before I changed the heater temperature.

However, just out of curiosity I put my main tanks thermometer in there too as a ‘control’ check, and its only reading 24º and that’s with the temp turned up for the last 30 mins….

So which one do I believe! :blink:
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15 Dec 2008 22:24 #14 by Fishowner (Gavin fishowner)
what type of thermometers are they? Also give them an hour or two to balance out Id imagine.

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15 Dec 2008 22:34 #15 by mickeywallace (Michael Wallace Cath Woods)
Hi Lazerus,
opps and opps!!!!!

that's a no no but strange!?! never take equipment from a health tank and place in isolation tanks or unhealthy tank! cross contamination!!!!!

it can take some time for a new thermometer to adjust to the correct temp. this may be the case here.

before replacing in your main tank soak the thermometer in salty water for a while wash and place back

you can adjust your temp by a max of two degrees per day this is in line with except change in temp for water changes +/- 2 degrees.

mickey

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15 Dec 2008 22:35 #16 by Lazerus (Caroline Mullally)
Well, both are submersible thermometers…

The one from my main tank has little metal balls at the base and then the red mercury stuff.

The other one just has red mercury stuff…

I’ll see what it reads tomorrow morning.

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15 Dec 2008 22:48 #17 by Lazerus (Caroline Mullally)
Sorry, you must have posted your message while I was typing mine...

Oh dear...never thought of that!! Cross contamination...of course! Doh!

Ok, I'll rinse that thermometer well before it goes back into the main tank.

I'll leave it in there till tomorrow anyway.

Lots to learn, lots to learn!:side:

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