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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

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26 Dec 2008 00:42 #1 by ken (kenneth forrester)
Hi i have apair of convict cichilds they have breed 3 times, but i have to take the male away from female and fri, after about 3 to four weeks. He keeps attacking female, near to death, does not bother the fri,in fact he looks after them great. Any advice welcome.

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26 Dec 2008 10:14 #2 by lampeye (lampeye)
Replied by lampeye (lampeye) on topic Re:convict
make a cave that only she can fit in, that way she can retreat to safety when he wants some giggy giggy and she's not in condition...i think thats usually when they turn wife beater.
you might find it a problem moving the fry on.
all the best
fran

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26 Dec 2008 11:43 #3 by JohnH (John)
Replied by JohnH (John) on topic Re:convict

...i think thats usually when they turn wife beater.


I agree with Lampeye here, with many of the South and Central American Cichlids the time comes when males are ready to breed again and females are not. In the wild, as most fish are not monogamous, the male would have simply moved on - or in some cases it would be the male which stayed with the fry and the female would have been evicted from the family group and the remaining parent would be left to tend to the fry...for a while, anyway. What eventually happens is most of the fry get eaten by other predators with a few survivors 'escaping' to grow to maturity.
When kept in our tanks, though, situations become different - many female Cichlids get so wrapped up with the parental instinct that reproduction becomes the last priority as they are minding a (virtually) non-diminishing clutch of fry. Many (especially the more aggressive species) male Cichlids do not share the ongoing parental instinct and when they are ready to breed again woe betide the female which isn't! As I said, in the wild - no problem, but in a confined space of even the largest of tanks there just isn't enough space for the female to hide - without intervention, such as moving the male to other quarters or making a refuge for the poor female - who still wants to mind her fry.
I have a pair of Apisto Borelli in a segmented tank which bred and, for the safety of the fry - the male was eating them! - I moved the pair along with another female to the adjoining section in order for the pair to breed again. But as the dividers were clear glass both the females could see the fry still and were vainly trying to mind them regardless of the invisible barrier. With most Apistos it's the female which is by far the most dominant partner and these femalee were not only trying to mind the young but also were very positively keeping the male away from the glass too. Now, with the fry half grown and the male making all manner of advances to them neither female still will have none of it, I really must move either the fry or the adults away from being able to see one another! This doesn't always happen with Apistos either - a little while back I had a pair of Cacs which were guarding fry, the male started munching a few so got removed and the female carried on with the guarding duties but when she returned to breeding condition she ate all the remaining fry, I returned the male again and they started spawning immediately.

I included those couple of examples to show that - in our tanks some times the parental instinct is paramount, but at other times, when reproduction's the priority, parental instincts are soon forgotten.

And one last point - Fran is definitely right, you really don't want very many Convict fry - they are a devil to even give away!

John

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We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl - year after year.


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