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Hi,
John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.
I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.
With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.
I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.
If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.
I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.
I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.
Thank you
Darragh Sherwin
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11 Apr 2012 20:15 #1
by jeff (Jeff Scully)
Not sure of plant on left, think the one on right is elodea
mate of mine has a pond full of this and just keeps throwing loads of it out
im starting a new project 60ltr planted can i use this in my tank
if so how do i go about cleaning it well more like how do i kill any nasty's that are living in it
i wanted to use the plant on the left in the first pic. for like a carpet all over the tank could this work
any help would be great
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11 Apr 2012 20:53 #2
by BillG (Bill Gray)
Hi Jeff,
the plants from the pond would be ok in a cold water aquarium, the heat in a tropical tank will most likely kill them very quickly. This is not the guaranteed outcome but it is likely. If you are setting a tropical tank up and plan to use the plants in it, it would be worth starting the tank off at a low temp while cycling it and slowly increase the temperature a degree or 2 every few days during cycling until you reach the desired temperature. Given pond temperatures at this time of year, you don’t want to shock the plants.
As you mentioned, you would treat them for any pathogens before adding to the tank, definitely worth doing. May also be worth treating for snails before adding them.
Cheers,
Bill.
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11 Apr 2012 22:45 #3
by jeff (Jeff Scully)
Thats great thanks Bill
What should i treat them with for pathogens and snails
And i should have said before that all the fish he had in the pond were eating by the local (heron)?
and their is frogs or frog in it now, this is known because of all the tadpoles in it at the moment
could this have other diseases or stuff that i should be worried about?
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11 Apr 2012 23:06 #4
by joemc (joe mc)
the plant on the left is Myriophyllum aquaticum or Myriophyllum spp. and yep the one on the right is elodea or Lagarosiphon major depending on who you talk to.
the big problem, (and it can be a big problem!) using plants from your pond is removing all the life forms that are hidden in it, everything from snaills to leaches to dragonfly larvae, along with all the invisible ones!! a 30-40 min soak in a plastic bucket of water with Potassium permanganate, enough to give the water a good deep pink color or you can use aluminum sulfate, the first is the one most people use and is easy to pick up.
just make sure you give the plants a good rinse after to remove any traces and wash off everything the solution kills, have a look in the bottom of the bucket when you are finished and prepare to be shocked at how much will be left behind!
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12 Apr 2012 09:01 #5
by joemc (joe mc)
sorry, only reread your post, i thought you just wanted an i.d and info on how to clean the plants, re growing the Myroiphylum an aquarium in the house, you can but you will be hard pushed to achieve the growth habit of the plant in its existing form, it likes plenty of light, it will much more likely grow faster in the tank, but will look a bit different, bigger spacing between the leaf nodes and a bit lighter in color, it can be planted in the substrate or can be allowed to float.just on another note if your friend is removing and dumping a load regularly just suggest to him to burn it or dispose of it in a way that it will not end up in any native pond or water ways as it can be a pretty invasive plant once it gets going
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12 Apr 2012 09:35 #6
by stretnik (stretnik)
Spot on Joe, on all accounts! Aluminium sulphate is used as a Garden friendly molluscide, it works by causing the Mucous/Slime producing organs, to cease function.
Noxious weeds are a big problem where Waterways are concerned and have no doubt, there are Plants in our Tanks that, while they seem innocent enough because of their origin, the Tropics mostly, leads people to believe that cold European Weather would kill them, well, not so, I recently emptied out a 50 Gallon Water butt, 2 years ago, I had dumped a large chunk of filamentous Algae riddled clump of Java Fern into it intending to take it out later on in the Year, it went through the two bitter Winters unscathed, the cold killed off the Algae but the Java moss and it's population of Cherry shrimp survived and are back in my Tank.
Kev.
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12 Apr 2012 09:49 #7
by joemc (joe mc)
yep Kev, this is one of those plants that will / should be on the availability chopping list soon, here is a site worth visiting and having a read on
www.pondconservation.org.uk/
or have a read of this site, well worth a read
nas.er.usgs.gov/default.aspx
yep, Aluminium sulphate one of the many ways we have developed to exterminate other life forms on our planet
quote....''Garden friendly molluscide''............is'nt there something slightly odd the way we use english, being able to include the word friendly in something that kills. like friendly fire ..... in the next life a lot of us will have a lonng list of questions to answer before we are allowed to pass go!
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