Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

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John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
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plants that do well in a tank with 30 degrees heat

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fishmad1234 (Craig Coyle)
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25 Nov 2010 20:13 #1 by fishmad1234 (Craig Coyle)

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hello looking for some suggestions on plants usually plants go to sh!t on me so want to start fresh plant wise i have a normal sand substrate in the tank

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25 Nov 2010 23:29 #2 by joey (joe watson)

Replied by joey (joe watson) on topic Re:plants that do well in a tank with 30 degrees heat

have done a fair bit of research on planted tanks, as i am soon setting up another one, but am still learning. here's what i would recommend based on hours of googling stuff:
best not to use sand unless it is quite coarse (1mm or bigger) and fine sand will block the roots and can cause them to rot, if the roots cant grow and take in nutrients the plant above wont do well
why do you need 30degrees? 27 is fine it wont make it grow faster but most tropical plants will grow at that temp, its more the lights (lumens rather than watts), fertilisers and co2 (or easycarbo) you need in good balance
i'd say you're better off to bed the tank with a fertile clay/substrate then put gravel on top
the plants i've had success with so far are swords, some easy crypts and vallisneria grasses (get runners of these popping up every week!)
like i say i'm a total beginner with plants too

Location: Portlaoise, Midlands

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26 Nov 2010 01:34 #3 by frankie (francois jacusse)

Replied by frankie (francois jacusse) on topic Re:plants that do well in a tank with 30 degrees heat

I'm keeping discus at the moment in a planted tank. Tank is setup with a fertile substrate and high ligting. I think in your case foxtail and ceratopteris thalictroides will do well as this palnt are kind of floating but still need fert and co2 (work for me with easy carbo and the tropica stuff). Staurogyne sp. seem to work very well as a foreground plant.have a look at my setup, post pics of it on the discus section. If you are interest next time I trim my plant I'll be able to pass it on to you. I also recommend any kind of anubias as this plant don't need any substrate to grow.

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27 Nov 2010 11:10 #4 by NosIreland (Andrius Kozeniauskas)

Replied by NosIreland (Andrius Kozeniauskas) on topic Re:plants that do well in a tank with 30 degrees heat

Hi,
I'm keeping discus in a planted tank. Temp 28-29, clay substrate, CO2 and fertilizing.
Here is a list of plants that worked for me:
echinodorus - I have Amazon swords, X barthii, Ozelot. I think any echinodorus species would work.
Crypts - hardy plants, wouldmelt initialy but ussualy recovers
Lotus(Nymphaea zenkeri) - This one grows like mad just give enough light and ferts.
Some moss will grow but not all.

I'm not sure about the sand in your case as it might became to compact for plant roots. Also if you will be keeping discus they will start blowing the sand when looking for food or even moving which may can cause problems in keeping plants at the bottom.
Even with my clay substrate I was having this problem. I wanted to plants Eleocharis parvula but in almost no time eleocharis was floating.

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06 Dec 2010 22:26 - 06 Dec 2010 22:33 #5 by wolfsburg (wolfsburg)

Replied by wolfsburg (wolfsburg) on topic Re:plants that do well in a tank with 30 degrees heat

Here is a list of plants that should do well in a discus tank (ie 30 degrees) taken from a book I have called The Big Dennerle Guide - System For Fascinating Aquariums.

It's just a list I ripped from a good book, I don't keep discus so I'm not able to give any more info...

Tall varieties
Crinum thaianum
Echinodorus bleheri
Echinodorus rigidifolius
Echinodorus sp
Rotala rotundifolia (don't plant too densley!)
Vallisneria gigantea
Vallisneria spiralis

Large-leafed plants
Echinodorus cordifolius
Echinodorus muricatus
Nymphaea rubra
Nymphaea stellata
Nymphaea lotus

Bushy varieties
Althernanthera reineckii "Red"
Hydrocotyle leucocephla
Hygrophilia polysperma
Hygrophilia corymbosa

Short carpeting plants
Echinodorus latifolius
Echinodorus tenellus
Sagittaria pusilla

Clinging plants
Bolbitus heudelottii
Microsorum pteropus
Vesticularia dubyna

Floating plants
Ceratophyllum
Ceratopteris cornuta
Ceratopteris thalictroides
Ceratopteris pteridioides
Pistia stratiotes

PS the article also says "that higher temperatures may radically change the biological processes in the aquarium - and usually accelerate them. At high temperatures it is therefore necessary, for example, to supply significantly more light, more fertilizer and more vitamins, and to change the water more frequently etc."

So maybe your plants go to mush because what seems like sufficient lighting, and so on, at normal tropical temperatures isn't nearly enough at 30 degrees.

Last edit: 06 Dec 2010 22:33 by wolfsburg (wolfsburg).

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