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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

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21 Jan 2011 15:35 - 21 Jan 2011 15:43 #1 by Puddlefish (Colin McCourt)
Introduction
Most of you who know of me will associate me as being a killifish enthusiast, this is true, and will always remain that way, but I do like, on occasion, to turn my hand to other aspects of fishkeeping. I've been on many a venture over the numerious years I've been in this amazing hobby, hell I even got salt in my mouth at one stage, but this proved to be an expensive interlude away from my beloved killifish. Whilst I enjoyed every moment of my dive into marines, I always knew I would return to freshies one day.
I am about to retrace my steps from the late eighties/early nineties and try to aquascape a planted aquarium from scratch. Technology has moved on a pace since those halcyon days and one has to stand and wonder at the range and diversity of aquariums on offer today.
This was my old tank from the early nineties, although it did cover a lot of the basics of today's modern equivalent, it would now be considered old skool in the eyes of many a fine aquascaper on these boards.

So now I'm going to endeavour to, once again dip my toes in a river venture and see where the boat ends up.
I hope you will all chip in an offer up critical comments on my mistakes and failings, I am still willing to learn and who better than from Ireland's finest.
Follow me now in this warts and all view of how I went about aquascaping my latest aquarium. ("Not another bloody tank"! shouts Mrs C :lol:)

Today I purchased a new tank and some bits and bobs. Not really what I was after, but finding what you need is like searching for a needle in a haystack. Problem is we are so poorly serviced by the aquatics industry up North IMHO and I usually end up paying through the nose for postal items from the UK. Anyhow I took what I could get to let me make some kind of a start.
I suppose I may start at the beginning;

The Tank:
I have already got a wooden stained cabinet on which to site my new aquarium. I couldn't get hold of the tank I wanted which would have been a bog standard 24x12x15 Clearseal brand. So after trawling around the country I ended up with a Juwel Rekord 60. The canopy of this all in one kit will be defunct but I'll hang onto it. Whilst A Record 70 would have been a better option, "Yes" you guessed it...No one had any. So with the attitude that it fits the cabinet (admittedly a little short on height) and it will grow plants (hopefully) I made the purchase.
Now if there's one thing you dont do when you've gone to your LFS for something specific is to start looking around, this is a big NO NO. So I came away with pieces of bogwood, substrate additive, fine gravel and river pebbles and a few other pieces of equipment. (She is gonna kill me). I've been down this street before though :lol:
So that's about it until tomorrow, I hope to be asking you all a lot of questions, this, coupled with the myriad of books I've amassed on the subject, may just help me on the road to a successful planted aquarium.

First and foremost I want to try and keep this as simple as I can. For one I will probably be drawn toward a Low - Med light plan when it comes to layouts of what plants and where to place them.

Got me a nice black background sheet stuck on there. I was going to go for a nice but rather expensive 3D Juwel background of either Root or Stone but seeing as it will almost certainly be covered by plants I decided to just plump for a plain black background.

I framed the outside of the aquarium back-wall with double-sided sticky tape and carefully stuck the whole layer into place.

With the background in situ I turned my hand to
The Substrates; I'd forgot how bloomin time consuming gravel washing was! :lol:
First I laid down a shallow scattering of peat moss. I went ahead and purchased a tub of Tetra Complete Substrate simply because it's the most accessible additive available locally.

A shallow peat layer was first placed into the base followed by 2cms of sub soil

The Tetra product does need to be capped though, so I had to buy 25kgs of 3mm Dorset gravel. (they didn't have any smaller bags of 3mm). No ADA constituents used there I hear you cry, well as much as I would like to try those out, I simply cant afford the stuff, it would have to come from the UK and postal rates would add to the expense. In any case, hopefully the plants will grow in what I have to offer.

2cms of (unwashed) Aquasoil topped off with another 2cms+ of Dorset's finest 3mm Gravel (washed) will form the rooting material for my planted tank.
Note my trusty non ADA planting stick come muck spreader
I have aquascaped with the bog-wood but bad lighting and reflections in the hallway is preventing me from getting a good image until this evening.
Shortly I will be offering up a planting plan for folks to pick through and maybe help me amend.

I will not be rushing this latest project and I will be sourcing most of my CO2 kit from the Far East so it will take a bit of time.
Regards
C
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21 Jan 2011 15:48 - 21 Jan 2011 15:49 #2 by SpiderMonkey (Mark O'Neill)
Brilliant job Colin I'll be keeping a close eye on this because I'm thinking about going the co2 route myself and I haven't got a clue :(
Very interesting


Mark
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21 Jan 2011 18:10 - 21 Jan 2011 18:21 #3 by Puddlefish (Colin McCourt)
Tank Dimensions - 60x30x42cm
By the time you get all that substrate in it eats a lot out of your potential planting choices so Midground, Dwarf varieties and Stem plants seem to be the order of the day, unless you know different. I dont need to worry about light penetration now as there's bound to be enough lumens at soil level. :lol:

I have been collecting a few bits n bobs recently and I guess I'll need to address this project in a systematic fashion, so I'll start off with the Lighting and progress to other areas as we progress coupled with a splattering of random topic related muses in-between.


A cross-section of the items purchased to complete the lighting task.The list included
2x15 watt starter units, 2x15 watt daylight spectrum tubes
2x 458mm Aluminium reflectors, 2x Digital timers & packets of stick on pads and cable ties.]

First off I had to remove the defunct Power Compact rig and cooling fans that was an integral part of my old marine nano. There was a certain amount of salt-water creep damage mainly confined to the hinges but all in all it's not in bad shape.


Internals of the canopy now devoid of cooling fans and power compact lighting, remnants from my marine nano.

After that job was completed I proceeded to install the reflectors and the light tubes for this venture, I was going to make my own but kind of got lazy and just went ahead and purchased two seeing as my LFS had them in stock at the time.


The canopy with the reflectors and florescent tubes installed

With everything fitted, the canopy was placed back on the tank and with a little tidying up of the wiring everything was complete.


An aerial shot of the canopy placed back on the tank and the wiring routed around the perimeter to keep it tidy and out of the way.

Not bad so far... but one thing struck me whilst in the middle of performing this task and that was condensation, not a big deal to folks with modern plastic hoods but wood may be a different problem entirely due to warping. I have always made cover-glasses for all of my tanks and I may have to retro fit some for this, it will be a pain keeping the things clean so as the light will still provide the plants with what they need but I feel it is necessary all the same. I'll need to cut a couple of 4mm float sliding glass covers to combat this aspect.

Another remnant of yesteryear, possibly O. affinis

Charging the camera at the moment and will post a frontal image of the tank with all lights blazing later. :lol:
Regards
C
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21 Jan 2011 23:07 #4 by des (des)
fair play Colin

very well put together post
easily understandable and very well documented
as Mark said, I'll be keeping a close eye on this post
looking forward to seeing how your tank progresses
i was trying to get some peat, hard to come by without any chemicals added to it
i love the tank from the early nineties, very nice..

Des

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22 Jan 2011 00:23 #5 by stretnik (stretnik)
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Very impressive Colin.

@ Des, I have additive free Peat if you want some.

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22 Jan 2011 13:56 - 22 Jan 2011 14:28 #6 by Puddlefish (Colin McCourt)
A personal meditation on "past to present"
Way back in the late eighties when planted aquariums were not the exact science that they are today, I can remember the buzz word back then was "DUPLA" This was all new German technical stuff that none of us aquarists back then had heard off or contemplated. Dupla offered an all new approach and produced all kinds of gizmos and what nots to help you grow aquarium plants all backed up by their bible as it were, a book entitled "The Optimium Aquarium" by Kaspar Horst and Horst E. Kipper. If your into aquariun plants and the technology behind growing such you should seek out this hardback book, maybe a little dated now but it's a good book all the same. This gave the guy with an ordinary community based aquarium a whole new outlook on how to maintain his or her plants, whereas before we bought a bunch of plants, they'd last a month or so and we would nip our and buy some more when the aquarium looked a bit dishevelled. You must remember at that time I was keeping aquariums under 25w clear incandescant bulbs with cuttings of bicycle tube to keep the condensation away from the electrics :laugh:
Now at last we had the means at our disposal to maintain our greenery. The kits were expensive back then but you all know what we aquarists are like, we'd sell a kidney for the sake of our hobby. New species of plants were being made available too around about this time and some we take for granted today were exciting new additions back then. Plants like Nymphea lotus and stellata were the top of the tree of the wow factor specimens. Amazing, and if you could get them to flower with all this new kit, you were considered amongst your fellow club members to be the "Daddy"
Great and exciting times.
As with everything time moves on and Dupla were practically superceeded by Dennerle who took aquarium planting and aquascaping one stage further, much more apparatus and cheaper too, some different concepts were also employed, but everything was loosely based on it's forerunner which was the Dupla model.
The Aquatic Plant bandwagon was really starting to gather pace at this stage.
If I remember correctly, it was always about balance and the sum of the whole helped you to construct a successful planted aquarium. Every aspect from CO2 fertilisation to Sub-soil Heating cables (now considered defunct) contributing to your eventual goal.
Most of this philosophy may still stand up today but reading between the lines from our modernistic developments this appears not to be the case or seems that way. We always were cajoled into thinking that lighting and correct spectral balance was the golden chalice if you wanted to have any success at all in this game. Watts per litre, Lumens at substrate level, colour balance were all pre-requisites. The brighter the better. Nowadays I read from the experts and they say to concentrate more on the flow, CO2 and nutrient. Forget about light. The plants will adapt to what is available if low but you don't want to get too high.
Food for thought there...
Today as we all know Takashi Amano is the next big thing in the aqua plant world, producing such stunning aquatic scapes founded on nature itself. Whilst I'm not a great lover of this type of new approach (I like the old Dutch stlye aquariums)I still have to stand in awe of his work.
We also see specialist plant growers and suppliers making it easier for the ordinary aquarist to obtain great looking specimens for to include in their planting schemes and schematics. Tropica and Aquafleur spring to mind. All helping to make this great hobby of ours even better.
Things have sure come a long way from those early days when, for me at least, Dupla started the ball rolling.
And I for one am grateful for these advances.
Regards
C
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22 Jan 2011 21:30 - 22 Jan 2011 22:00 #7 by Puddlefish (Colin McCourt)
OK with the history lesson dispensed with I moved on to a little hard aqua-scaping.
I'm using bog-wood rather than the new redwood or mopani alternatives. Whilst I would agree that the latter wood offers up better shapes I don't want the hassle of having to nail the stuff down to stop it from floating. In any-case normal bog-wood will give me all the scope I need as I wont be going for what I would call a modernistic look. I prefer the Dutch style of old.
I have added 3 pieces of wood to the scape alongside some river pebbles to try and achieve a natural look.

All of the above aqua-scaping is in preparation for a planting plan to loosely based around the following schematics;


  1. Vallisneria nana
  2. Vesicularia dubyana
  3. Anubias barteri var. nana
  4. Echinodorus tenellus
  5. Heteranthera zosterifolia
  6. Hygrophila polysperma 'Rosanervig
  7. Cryptocoryne wendtii "green'
  8. Cryptocoryne wendtii "brown'
  9. Pogostemon helferi
  10. Elocharis acicularis
I also wish to include a few other species at a later date. (Barclaya, Aponogeton and Nymphea)

As you will have probably noticed, I've decided to keep the filtration box in this Juwel aquarium to hide all the electrics etc. (plants will cover eventually). The problem I have is that the return from the small power-head within the compartment will only basically throw water in one direction depending on how you place the return pipe.
I was also thinking about the flow around the aquarium. This will consist of the pre-installed filter pump which comes as part of the Rekord kits. The secondary movement will be created by an external Eheim 2217 classic range canister filter.
What I have found in my drawer are two of these little items, refugees from my marine nano, but were never used.

Hydor Flo water deflecting device.

They connect to the outlets of filters and pumps and turn slowly with the speed of the water going through them. I am looking to incorporate these into this tank to help prevent dead areas.
The Hydor flow devices come with an array of rubber gaskets to fit all manner of powerhead and filter connections.

I managed to join mine straight onto the Juwel powerhead itself, very much sub-surface so hopefully it will provide a good secondary circulatory flow.
Regards
C
Last edit: 22 Jan 2011 22:00 by Puddlefish (Colin McCourt).

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23 Jan 2011 02:10 #8 by andrewo (andrew)
love the details. thanks for sharing mate!

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23 Jan 2011 04:58 #9 by sheag35 (Seamus Gillespie)
as usualgreat thread from you, going all out again Colin, love it, watching this with interest... hey maybe we should get practical fishkeeping to hire you as a writer.......do i get a finders fee if they do ;)

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23 Jan 2011 18:24 - 23 Jan 2011 18:29 #10 by Puddlefish (Colin McCourt)
Thanks Guys, I like to write and share some of my exploits in this hobby with others. Maybe someone will find something useful out of my articles.
As for PFK, I dont think so, I'm not chasing notoriety, keep it at ground roots that's me. I've seen to many guys get up their own proverbial's just because they got to write an article for that mag. Some good aquarists too, they changed quite a bit personality wise being on that pedestal. If they want to ask can they use an article then so be it but I'm not looking for a pay cheque. I enjoy doing what I'm doing, Some European killifish societies have approached me to ask if they can publish one of them in their journal, (latest being the Belgian assoc). That's fine and I am honoured to even be asked. So Seamus you'll have to pick someone else for your get rich quick scheme :laugh:
Anyway I'm sending to the Far East for some CO2 apparatus this weekend, I have the bottles filled ready to go. I need a new set of regulators as I gave my old set to a marine guy who was in a spot of bother as his set broke.
I will be ordering the following pieces of kit.

CO2 Regulators with solenoid valve.


CO2 12mm inline atomiser for my Eheim 2217 Classic external filter.


Drop Checker and reagent refill


Bubble counter

I will also need some metal non return valves and 4dkh solution for the drop checker.

Hopefully it wont be too long before they arrive.
Regards
C
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23 Jan 2011 18:53 #11 by SpiderMonkey (Mark O'Neill)
Colin would you be able to pm me some information on your co2 kit please
When you have the time

Thanks C



Mark

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23 Jan 2011 19:09 #12 by Puddlefish (Colin McCourt)
Hi,
Once I get all the specific pieces of apparatus together I'll post (with pics) the details of how and what goes where
Regards
C

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24 Jan 2011 01:25 #14 by derek (Derek Doyle)
very interesting and well presented. the hydor flow device and dupla and optimum aquarium book rings a few bells all right.

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24 Jan 2011 09:18 #15 by Viperbot (Jason Hughes)
Brilliant as always Colin. Surely you have room for a salty in a drawer or cabinet somewhere :laugh: ??

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24 Jan 2011 16:47 - 24 Jan 2011 17:34 #16 by Puddlefish (Colin McCourt)

Surely you have room for a salty in a drawer or cabinet somewhere

Nah that Marine Nano burnt a wee hole in my pocket, thats not to say I was sad to see it go.:(
Heres a small glimpse of what was


A little YWG.


The Flameback Angel


A Red Acro sp


FTS #1


FTS #2

Regards
C
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24 Jan 2011 20:07 #17 by Viperbot (Jason Hughes)
Fantastic. That was a very well maintained setup and your corals looked great. Bet it hurt stripping that one. Thanks for sharing.

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25 Jan 2011 00:34 #18 by platty252 (Darren Dalton)
Great stuff Colin. It would take me a month to write all that + photos.
Love the history lesson.

The Dutch style aquariums look great. Big bushy and colourful.

A couple of things that might just help you along the way. Thats if you dont already know them.
An established filter used on the tank and a squeezing from an old filter in to the tank when it is first filled with water can go a long way to prevent algae 4-6 weeks down the road.

Also 6-8 hours of light a day for the first couple of weeks is plenty for the plants.
Frequent water changes for the first week or two until the tank settles in.
After that you can increase the lighting period and ease off the water changes to a more normal once a week.
If algae start to show its ugly head increase the water changes again.

Looking forward to your next instalment.

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25 Jan 2011 00:52 #19 by funkychic (trish coughlan)
really interesting will be following this post looking forward to seeing the finished tank , (are they ever finished lol).

love ur marine :)

trish

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25 Jan 2011 01:55 #20 by andrewo (andrew)
wow; so many corals together. rly nice and colorful; too short a video though:laugh:
what happened to the tank??

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