well more so, native plants

has anyone had any experience in keeping native aquatic plants in their aquariums (maybe just in a plant only tank due to climate, or maybe some native plants can adapt to tropical climates) now i know this can be seen as a no no, and i don't want to encourage people to do it, but i think peoples veiws on this would make a good read, maybe if folk posted links, pics, info and warnings?

as you say it is a big no no.taking any aquatic plant from the wild is illegal that's the warning part.Most of them would require an aquarium with a chiller installed if they were to be kept indoors.

cheers Gav

You could try this, Gunnera manicata, cute as a button, Victoria lily, neat and easy to keep. And last but not least,

Arum giganteum, so called because it has large Pollen grains.

Kev

Sorry, couldn't resist !

APRIL FOOL !!

Kev.

i couldn't even contemplate such an idea. i think if department of invasive species tricked myself and John to keep the invasive plants alive, we'd murder the lot of it in a few weeks solving the problem

You could try Mentha aquatic, great for freshening your breath after a Curry ! Curry, get it? Lol

Kev.

another thread gone down the crapper, cheers Kev.

i think someone got out of the "right" side of his bed this morning, lol i dont like the mr cranky bottom Kev, i like your humourous side better

stretnik wrote:

You could try Mentha aquatic, great for freshening your breath after a Curry ! Curry, get it? Lol

Kev.

stretnik wrote:

Now now, thrash the thread not the poster

Kev

Here I was , thinking you'd appreciate what I wrote but I do agree, It isn't nice when a Thread goes down the Crapper, ESPECIALLY when it happens to you.

Kev.

i did Kev. but next week when i do it, you'l give me both barrells. you blow hot and cold kev, hot and cold

Don't you even see what I am trying to convey? you constantly do this and I know, for one I am tired of it, I'm not sure how others perceive this, I'm not them but why keep doing it? it stops being funny very quickly.

You even admit that you are going to do it? what does it achieve, I'm sorry Dar but I just don't understand.

You make comments supported with emoticons to give the appearance of benevolence but the damage is done and people end up trying to pick up the pieces and defending themselves, namely re Darragh and his Millions, I think it's time to cop on.

Kev.

Gavin wrote:

as you say it is a big no no.taking any aquatic plant from the wild is illegal that's the warning part.Most of them would require an aquarium with a chiller installed if they were to be kept indoors.

I shouldn't probably be publicising this, but its a bugbear of mine - very little is actually legally protected in Ireland.

The list of protected plant species is tiny, most of them have to be so rare to make the list that you'd never find them anyway.

The trouble is, the law is not policed. No-one has ever been prosecuted for breach of the flora protection order, yet most of the protected species have continued to decline.

Also, I have little faith in the list of protected plants - e.g. The last update to the Flora Protection Order removed a species of heather, of which only 5 plants exist in Ireland, found in a single location in Roundstone bog ! In the UK, with two thirds of the worlds population of Bluebells, they are strictly protected. Ireland probably has the next biggest population (therefore important in a global context), but they're not protected.

However, the protection given to plants on the list is really comprehensive: it is illegal to possess any part of the plant, roots, seeds, flowers or do pretty much do anything to harm its environment. This strictly means that you cannot import seeds or plants of a protected species - so that the native Irish genepools are protected against dilution/pollution. Again, this is not policed - I told the NPWS years ago of a protected species widely available in garden centres, but they didn't care.

This has also resulted in, for example, Cowslips being common on roadsides everywhere, even though they were so rare in the 1970's that they made the protected list. Either they have experienced a miraculous recovery, or more likely, they were spread by county councils and individuals from packets of seeds.

The major exception to this is protected areas - i.e. Nature reserves, national parks, etc. where everything is protected, even if its quite common.

So there you go - rant over!!!

two wrongs don't make a right kev, and you know that. you need to grow up and drop your issue with me ok as i have recently spoken very highly of you and you just hound me into a reaction. if you have a beef wit me fine but i'd rather you didn't air it in public, pm me wen you feel you need to vent your frustrations. now i would like if it was left at that

know back to the topic at hand, that's a good bit of info jim, the kind i expected cheers

Jim wrote:

Gavin wrote:

as you say it is a big no no.taking any aquatic plant from the wild is illegal that's the warning part.Most of them would require an aquarium with a chiller installed if they were to be kept indoors.

I shouldn't probably be publicising this, but its a bugbear of mine - very little is actually legally protected in Ireland.

The list of protected plant species is tiny, most of them have to be so rare to make the list that you'd never find them anyway.

The trouble is, the law is not policed. No-one has ever been prosecuted for breach of the flora protection order, yet most of the protected species have continued to decline.

Also, I have little faith in the list of protected plants - e.g. The last update to the Flora Protection Order removed a species of heather, of which only 5 plants exist in Ireland, found in a single location in Roundstone bog ! In the UK, with two thirds of the worlds population of Bluebells, they are strictly protected. Ireland probably has the next biggest population (therefore important in a global context), but they're not protected.

However, the protection given to plants on the list is really comprehensive: it is illegal to possess any part of the plant, roots, seeds, flowers or do pretty much do anything to harm its environment. This strictly means that you cannot import seeds or plants of a protected species - so that the native Irish genepools are protected against dilution/pollution. Again, this is not policed - I told the NPWS years ago of a protected species widely available in garden centres, but they didn't care.

This has also resulted in, for example, Cowslips being common on roadsides everywhere, even though they were so rare in the 1970's that they made the protected list. Either they have experienced a miraculous recovery, or more likely, they were spread by county councils and individuals from packets of seeds.

The major exception to this is protected areas - i.e. Nature reserves, national parks, etc. where everything is protected, even if its quite common.

So there you go - rant over!!!

Indeed! I remember being very proud of myself for growing seeds of a cowslip plant I found way back in the early 80's (The only one I had ever seen, till then!). I think (hope/ bloddy better be dad!)it's still where I sowed it.
Then, 10 years ago, work moved to Parkwest. Every April/May, cowslips appear EVERYWHERE!!!!!
I was quite crest-fallen.
However, quick aside, has anyone seen native voilets in profusion anywhere lately??

only read about baensch's 'european' aquarium , yet to see one