Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)
Hi,
John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.
I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.
With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.
I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.
If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.
I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.
I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.
Thank you
Darragh Sherwin
Nothobranchius nigripinnis hatching video
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Scientific Name: Nothobranchius rubripinnis Seegers 1986
This species is on the ICUN list of threatened species classed as ‘Vulnerable’ D2 (ver 3.1).
This status is a high concern status, and is classed as having a high risk of extinction in the wild (according to the IUCN categories www.iucnredlist.org/apps/redlist/static/categories_criteria_3_1 )
According the species author (Seegers, 1986) “…Only known from the Mbezi River under the bridge of the road to Kibiti, about 40 km south of Dar es Salaam…”.
This single location is the type locality of the holotype (the specimen upon which the species is described by Seegers in 1986); having such a limited distribution makes this species vulnerable to endangerment.
Now, this piece of breeding is not a marvellous breakthrough or anything like that; but it was an opportunity to demonstrate the marvels of killifish egg hatching. Unfortunately, the eggs were hatching from the peat as it floated on the water; that meant is was difficult to get a video of the eggs bursting open.
However, these young fry are very very small and difficult to video in such a ‘kilner jar’ hatching.
A little bit of a pre-amble as the dried peat is placed in a jar and water added (no great breakthrough video footage there….just me chatting away about what type of water I used etc).
These are young as they first hatch at about 45 to 50 minutes after adding the water (my OH was quite ecstatic over seeing these young burst into life….hence I removed the audio track)
This the young at 20 hours being fed newly hatch brine shrimp.
I cannot find any photos of the males…..they have long passed away shortly after spawning.
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PS. now I get it-you're using it to keep the water to temperature?
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watching a lot of youtube videos of the guys seem a preety tough fish
Do they have to go through the the peat stage or can they just be like a normal fish and hatch in the water.
Good work ian.
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But as they say.."...this is done under strict supervision of health and safety professionals, do not try this at home..."
Well spotted....so 10/10 for my first SHWW student.
@Jambomac.... nice video you found (although it was not 100% natural environment by the looks of things).
The killies in that video are different to the Nothobranchius. Those killies (in the video you linked) will lay either in mud or on floating or sunken plants....and the young will hatch with good yield in the water irrespective of the eggs being dried out ever.
The Nothobranchius, however, need a period of out-of-water.
As for being tough......nearly all killis are aggressive; and some are simply hyper-aggressive (to the state of not being happy unless only one fish exists in a tank).
They maybe brutish fighters and survivors but they are quite sensitive to water conditions, and some almost defy captive keeping.
Another difference between the fish shown in your link and the Nothobranchius is that the ones in your link are not true Annual fish.....they can live 3 or 4 years without a problem; whereas Nothobranchius and similar killies really are pushing it at 5 months old.
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I couldn't believe it was a laptop underneath all that water

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@DJK.....I am a qualified safety and health pro (and member of a university safety committee), and that mixing of water on top of switched-on laptop was just a test to see if we have any safety conscious fish keepers on the forum.
But as they say.."...this is done under strict supervision of health and safety professionals, do not try this at home..."
Well spotted....so 10/10 for my first SHWW student.
ian
Nice one Ian. I dropped a name not so long ago (Prof. Michael Hynes from NUI Galway) on my Mother's side. It's obviously in my genes.
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@DJK.....I am a qualified safety and health pro (and member of a university safety committee), and that mixing of water on top of switched-on laptop was just a test to see if we have any safety conscious fish keepers on the forum.
But as they say.."...this is done under strict supervision of health and safety professionals, do not try this at home..."
Well spotted....so 10/10 for my first SHWW student.
ian
Nice one Ian. I dropped a name not so long ago (Prof. Michael Hynes from NUI Galway) on my Mother's side. It's obviously in my genes.
Dave
I remember that DJK....a chemist as well if my memory serves me well (no better people than chemists to look after safety and health).
My poor laptop is covered with cigarette ash filling the gaps between the keys; next to the mouse pad is a coffee-cup stain; and when I'm not using the machine it is my foot rest when watching the Rose of Trallee on TV.
@Smitas.....my history on safety is ruthless: I would stand in the chemistry lab practicals wearing a lab coat and pair of athletic shorts and boot out any student who entered the lab wearing non-cotton clothes, not wearing their googles or lab coat or latex gloves. As I said....do as I say, not as I do.

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Am having a wee bit of a problem getting some SAA to hatch at the moment so I'll try something different at the next attempt.
Can you record their progress and next stages as well, including transfer to their first filtered tank?
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You may have to see if you can isolate an egg and get it under a microscope.
I'd divide up the batch and try different treatments.
Use mature water....and maybe a small pinch of flaked fish food added to it, and to another batch add a bit of salt.
With the guys hatched above, they are still in their kilner jars. The ADDED food is fresh hatch brine shrimp, brine shrimp eggs (with husk taken off), small powdered fry food, and liqui-fry.
The liqui-dry is really added as food for the rotifers, infusoria, and micro-worms growing in the water.
I place the jars at an angle over a light (actually it is as crude as simple laying them ontop of another fish tanks lighting hood with the light exposed.
That will aid the growth of micro-food within the water.
To date the yield is looking good, but there is always the danger of velvet getting the batch.
These young will be ready to breed in about 5 weeks time....if, and only if, I get a mix of males and females.
Sometimes you get 100% male or 100% female.
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Here is something along the lines of the chat tonight.
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