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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

HELP ' angle has just laid eggs dont know what to

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25 Nov 2011 22:26 #1 by jeff (Jeff Scully)
ive just came home to find this they are in a tank of cychlids dont know if i should take them out straight away and put them into a spare tank or just leave them and let the parents look after them untill they hatch

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25 Nov 2011 22:33 #2 by igmillichip (ian millichip)
Congrats.

The angel parent on the right looks like a smashing specimen.

I'd leave the eggs with the parents to raise. They may be poor parents, they may eat them, but if they don't then you'll get better babies and the experience to behold of parent fish tending the young.

Whichever way, get some baby food.....freshly hatched brine shrimp,liquifry or other fry food.

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25 Nov 2011 22:48 #3 by jeff (Jeff Scully)
cheers ian
should the eggs be ok when the lights go out in about 15mins.
im afraid the other fish will eat them especially a talking head pleco and some oto's
trying to load up a video of them

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25 Nov 2011 22:58 #4 by igmillichip (ian millichip)

cheers ian
should the eggs be ok when the lights go out in about 15mins.
im afraid the other fish will eat them especially a talking head pleco and some oto's
trying to load up a video of them


Aaagh, other fish? especially ones that might not be scared off by angels.

To remove the eggs would need a specially set-up tank with additional air-stone aeration and an anti-fungal.
At this late stage that would be a rushed-job and it might be just as well to leave the parents to their job and keep fingers crossed.

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25 Nov 2011 23:06 #5 by jeff (Jeff Scully)
still wont upload a video here is a pic of the parents for now

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25 Nov 2011 23:39 - 25 Nov 2011 23:44 #6 by jeff (Jeff Scully)
for now nobody is going near them they chase anybody who has the balls to go near them
your right its a bit of an operation setting up another tank this hour going to leave them and hope for the best

should i set up another tank 2moro and when they hatch take them out then


going to turn off the lights now, they went off earlier but i put it back on for a while here we go
im sh1t1ng it

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26 Nov 2011 00:09 #7 by fishmad1234 (Craig Coyle)
Congrats god is there some thing to do with the changeing weather with all these angels laying eggs

at the end of the day it becomes nite

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26 Nov 2011 00:18 #8 by jeff (Jeff Scully)
disaster turned the lights off and in less than a min. my 4" festiveum went over started to eat them and he faught off the 2 angles not a bother to him
as quick as lightning ive put a small tank together while the missis kept him away with a fish net, took the bog wood out and placed it in the small tank do yea think they will hatch

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26 Nov 2011 00:20 #9 by jeff (Jeff Scully)
angles still protecting the area and fighting the fes

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26 Nov 2011 00:22 #10 by Valerie (Valerie)
Replied by Valerie (Valerie) on topic Re: HELP ' angle has just laid eggs dont know what to
Seen this situation a few times in my tank : too much going on with the other fish about - the angels feel under threat ...

These eggs are probably going to be eaten by the time the sun comes up again.
But the good news is ... they have laid eggs ... they will again ... You might be ready next time to have the eggs isolated :)

Valerie :)

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26 Nov 2011 00:31 #11 by jeff (Jeff Scully)
thanks valerie
you were probably writing this when i was writing the other post
what do yeah think of me putting them into another tank do yeah think the will hatch

have to convince the other half now for a 3rd tank would love them to keep breeding

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26 Nov 2011 00:42 #12 by jeff (Jeff Scully)
this is what i put them in, have to add more water


took water out of big tank put in sponge filter and heater

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26 Nov 2011 01:08 #13 by BlueRam (Sean Crowe)
congrats mate

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26 Nov 2011 01:19 #14 by igmillichip (ian millichip)
That one angel fish is superb.....thanks for uploading a better picture.

Now you have a mated pair, the future should look rosey.

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26 Nov 2011 01:20 - 26 Nov 2011 01:32 #15 by David (David)
If you have moved the eggs into a separate tank a very important think to remember is eggs have to be kept clean and aerated the parents do this by by flapping there fins over the eggs every few minutes.
you can simulate by having a very light drift of bubbles passing over them or having them in a very light currant caused by your filter.

in the fry tank try and keep it as minimal as possible no gravel wigglers when the fall away can get stuck in it and try and get some form of fry food they will hatch in about 3 days and possible become free swimming in about 5 to 7 days

just my own views others may differ

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26 Nov 2011 18:04 #16 by jeff (Jeff Scully)
cheers david
ive taken ur advice and put a small air stone with low pressure under them so thanks for that
just have a small bit of sand in it
so i think its now just a waiting game to see if im lucky


will keep you all up to date with it all

thanks for the feedback

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26 Nov 2011 18:40 #17 by katie (Kathrin Guenther)
congrats and best of luck with it :)

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27 Nov 2011 10:43 #18 by BlueRam (Sean Crowe)
make sure u keep us posted as i am wantin for my breeding pair off blue angles ta spawn again as they did last week but eat the eggs

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28 Nov 2011 17:32 #19 by jeff (Jeff Scully)
sorry to hear that sean maybe next time you'll have better luck

id say about half or a bit less of them turned white so they were not fertilised (i think)
and i got a count of about 80 wigglers today so i might see some swimmers by the end of the week

what do people think the best thing to feed them is, and where can i get it cause my lfs has nothing

last year i had loads of baby mollys 100s and i just crushed up flake food into dust, they survived ok, but took ages to grow

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28 Nov 2011 17:43 #20 by katie (Kathrin Guenther)
fingers crossed on your little ones, hope they keep doing well for you :)

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28 Nov 2011 18:16 #21 by skk123 (shaun)
baby brine shrimp after they are free swimming,feed 4 or 5 times a day
good look with them

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28 Nov 2011 21:30 #22 by jeff (Jeff Scully)
thanks katie,


sk123 thanks were will i get them i tryed a few shops for stuff today and no joy

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28 Nov 2011 22:36 #23 by BlueRam (Sean Crowe)
wat about micro worms easy to culture and im sure there is someone here that can give u a start pack

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28 Nov 2011 23:05 #24 by DJK (David Kinsella)
Microworms sound well and good - but not in the case for angelfish fry. The said fry like a moving target which microworms do not give. They simply fall to the bottom of the tank and don't move a whole lot.

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28 Nov 2011 23:28 #25 by jeff (Jeff Scully)
I found this can anyone tell me if this would work sounds a bit mad but would be great if it worked and its free

Infusorians


Infusorians is a suitable food for very small fish fry. You can easily grow your own Infusoria cultures at home. This way you will always have cheap and nutritious food ready for your fry. Infusorians are minuscule single cell organisms that live in water. To cultivate your own Infusoria you will only need tap water, some bruised vegetables and a few clean containers such as jars or similar.

Boil the tap water and let it cool down to room temperature. Fill the jars with the water and add some bruised vegetables to each jar. Bruised lettuce leaves or banana skins are recommended, since they are known to produce a lot of Infusoria. One banana skin or 3-4 lettuce leaves is a good amount for each jar. Do not put any lids on the jars. Place your jars in a warm place where they will receive moderate light.

The water in the jars will soon turn cloudy and begin to smell a bit. As the Infusorians develop, the smell will become increasingly sweet and the water will clear up. It will usually take 3-4 days for Infusoria to develop. When the water looks clear, you can start feeding your fry with the Infusoria. Use a siphon or a spoon to remove the Infusoria from the top of the jar and place it in your fry aquarium. Make sure not to bring any plant material from the Infusoria jars over to the fry rearing tank, since this can pollute the water. Start developing new Infusoria culture every 3-4 day to make sure you always have enough food for your fry until they are big enough to eat larger food.

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29 Nov 2011 01:19 #26 by skk123 (shaun)
baby brine shrimp are best because of the nutrient's they give the fish seahorse sell bbs in bottles for 5e and free refills.like DJK said angels like a moving target.if ya need brine shrimp eggs pm me and il give ya some.

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29 Nov 2011 13:26 #27 by jeff (Jeff Scully)
thanks skk123

im going to go out to seahorse today and get some 5€ sounds good

will get intouch about eggs fair play to yea

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29 Nov 2011 16:16 #28 by skk123 (shaun)
Yea no worries pm me when ya need them
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01 Dec 2011 23:23 #29 by jeff (Jeff Scully)
just a quick update lads the fry are now swimming around, and im feeding them on bbs, just done a 40% water change today to see how they would get on and no probs so far

any other tips on keeping them alive

do i really have to do a water change every day, i dont mind but i fell it might be a bit much on them mabe im wrong, today i just used an air line to take out the water making sure i didn't catch anyone and for adding the new water i done the same so it was nice and slow for them

how long do they stay on the bbs for, and how many times a day, today i fed them 4 times every 4 or 5hrs just a small bit, would have loved to feed them every hour cause its deadly watching them lazing around and then going into killing mode hahaha foood

right so thats me waffle over, please let me know of any tips

thanks

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02 Dec 2011 18:32 #30 by katie (Kathrin Guenther)
Great news :cool: :cheer: Well done !
No help from me as I know nothing about Angels at all, but fingers crossed all goes well for them :cheer:
Keep us updated :)

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