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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

Finally a pair of Kribs.

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28 Apr 2012 15:57 #1 by wylam (Stuart Sexton)
Finally after lots of trial and error(mostly error) I think i have the makings of a breeding pair.

this is the female.



And this handsome fella is the male.(i hope lol)


I have 3 females in the tank now for about two months one has become dominant and when i introduced him she went straight for him.Didn't attack him like i expected her to do, she just kinda followed him around like a lost puppy.She kept tilting to one side and showing her belly .She seems to be keeping her abdominal fins tight to her body when she's near him.Any way after a bit of bickering he now tollerate's her presence as she follows him around. he seems to be after claiming a cave under some bog wood and has gone in there removing sand a few times.

Does any of this sound good in terms of breeding practices??If yes would it be a good idea to remove the other two females now , before ww3 breaks out?

Cheers Stuart.

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28 Apr 2012 16:08 #2 by christyg (Chris Geraghty)
Looks like love :P I'd remove the other two and let nature take its course. If he's preparing the cave (nest) he has only one thing on his mind

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28 Apr 2012 16:10 #3 by SouthAfricanInIreland (Ryan Dokter)
Yip sounds like they have bonded, especially if he's arranging accomodation, as for the other 2 females, that depends on the size of the tank and the amount of caves, hiding spots and natural barriers you have

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29 Apr 2012 09:29 #4 by ghart (Greg Hart)
I'm looking to get a pair of Kribs.
I would have assumed that if I buy one male and female that they will eventally pair off in my tank seeing as there as no other Kribs present. :unsure:

Greg

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29 Apr 2012 11:46 #5 by Melander (Andreas Melander)
Especially the female exibits some very nice colours.

Can't really help but good luck and keep us posted!

Melander

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29 Apr 2012 13:05 #6 by christyg (Chris Geraghty)

I'm looking to get a pair of Kribs.
I would have assumed that if I buy one male and female that they will eventally pair off in my tank seeing as there as no other Kribs present. :unsure:

Greg


Not necessarily, they can be fussy and if they dont get on they can kill each other

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29 Apr 2012 14:09 #7 by davey_c (dave clarke)

I'm looking to get a pair of Kribs.
I would have assumed that if I buy one male and female that they will eventally pair off in my tank seeing as there as no other Kribs present. :unsure:

Greg


Not necessarily, they can be fussy and if they dont get on they can kill each other


+1.. didn't wylam fall victim to fatalities due to uncompatable paring? i'd either buy an already established pair or a group.... sometime pairings happen in the lfs and the people working there can sell you these as pairs so no harm ringing around :)

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my plywood tank build.

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29 Apr 2012 14:13 #8 by ghart (Greg Hart)
Wow!
Thanks for the warning.
What do you recommend.Put one male in with say 3 females and see which one fall for mister big. :kiss:
Would 2 pairs of Kribs live together even in a 5 foot tank.


Greg

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29 Apr 2012 15:32 #9 by wylam (Stuart Sexton)
@davey, yeah i had alot of trouble at the start mainly due to my lack of research on the matter and my initial failure to just put up a simple post on the forums and ask the experts.

@ghart, yeah i thought if you jut had one of each sex in the tank that surely they would pair up.But as christy said they can be very fussy, i tried different combination's of 2F 1M,3M 1F, 2M 2F. Nothing seemed to work until i realised that i was introducing them all into the tank at the same time.So the way i see it ,instead of trying to pair up their main concern was to gain control of territory , But this meant they were all fighting all the time until they killed one another.So the plan was simple get 3 juvenile females and leave them sort out territory for a month or so.One female came out on top , so i decided to get a male , within an hour of the male going in they looked like a couple. brought the other two females back to LFS today and the happy couple are busy digging a cave. happy days.

Its been fun to watch and i hope the next thread will have fry in it, fingers crossed.

Cheers Stuart.

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29 Apr 2012 16:12 #10 by ghart (Greg Hart)
Thanks Stuart! ;)
I will try the same method with females first if I cannot find an already matched pair.

Look forward to seeing the results from your pair.


Greg

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29 Apr 2012 17:03 #11 by igmillichip (ian millichip)
Krib pairing can be a bit odd at times.

They are one of the very best of all cichlid parents (much better than any rift valley cichlid or discus even) with a complex raising behaviour.

Even with a perfectly self selected pair, one or other parent can turn around and beat the hell out of the other one (...could be due to one thinking the other is a bad parent??? who knows).

That is a potential problem of many african river cichlids.

I have always found that selecting a good male and good female will give as good a result as trying to use 6 youngsters or x males to y females.

ian

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29 Apr 2012 17:11 #12 by duzzy1 (Martin Kennedy)
if you are lucky and have a pair , just be warned of one thing ..... they are not the easiest of fish to sell on at times , and once they start spawning , you'll be surrounded in fry in no time

martin

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29 Apr 2012 17:32 #13 by igmillichip (ian millichip)
It is a real pity that Kribs are not as popular as they should be, and, as the above post says, not easy to get rid of.

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29 Apr 2012 17:57 #14 by clifford (Clifford)
i have a group of 5 adults. 3 females and 2 male which have bred a couple of times and looking for small money for them if you are interested

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29 Apr 2012 19:23 #15 by ghart (Greg Hart)
Thanks Clifford,
I looking to start with a young small pair of Kribs.
I will keep an eye on the LFS to see what comes into stock over the next few weeks.
All my community fish at present are very small.
I'd be afraid that the adult Kribs would be snacking on the young community fish.
T believe that the old addage still applies if a fish fits in another fish's mouth that is where it will end up.

Greg

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29 Apr 2012 20:10 #16 by wylam (Stuart Sexton)
@Duzzy, yeah i was worried about what i will do with the offspring if i can keep them alive.Am i right in saying tough that in a community setup i'll have allot less fry survive, than if they pair were in a dedicated breeding tank?I have no real interest in making money off the fry but it would be nice. If all else fails im sure the LFS will take em off me.

Stuart.

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29 Apr 2012 20:14 #17 by BlueRam (Sean Crowe)
wat i done was something like the above post i looked around and found 3 very very very nice females i added them to the tank and about 2 months later i went about lookin for a nice male i was about a month and a half finding the make i wanted when i did i added him to the tank within the hours the three females where chasen him around the tank

now he has spawned with each female as if they are taken it in turns all the time eggs hatch and fry all over the tank as it is a community not many last but a few does this happens about every 2 weeks

it mad how they do it but its great as he gots on with the 3 females

Sean

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29 Apr 2012 20:48 #18 by christyg (Chris Geraghty)

if you are lucky and have a pair , just be warned of one thing ..... they are not the easiest of fish to sell on at times , and once they start spawning , you'll be surrounded in fry in no time

martin


Absolutely spot on, I have three broods in my krib only setup and they look like they're ready to go again

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29 Apr 2012 20:52 #19 by duzzy1 (Martin Kennedy)
when i had my breeding pair , i noticed the survival rate increased every time the pair spawned ... The female seemed to get better at guarding the fry and even guarded them longer so that when they started exploring the tank , they were big enough to look after themselves .

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03 May 2012 15:46 #20 by wylam (Stuart Sexton)
Hi guys , my kribs have made their nest in a cave and the female stays in there most of the time, while the male patrols outside.Today when i fed them she emerged to feed and she had lost her purple color on her belly and she was looking quite slim.Could they have spawned already? and if so how long do i have before we have babies?

Cheers Stuart.

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03 May 2012 16:32 #21 by SouthAfricanInIreland (Ryan Dokter)
Well IF they have spawned, which it sounds quite possible, and IF they are anything like convicts i would say you should have wrigglers anywhere between 3 - 5 days from the time the eggs are laid, 4 days to a week after that they should be free swimming fry...

Keep us updated ;)

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03 May 2012 19:24 #22 by wylam (Stuart Sexton)
Will do they have the entrance to the cave pretty well closed with sand so i cant see inside, but hopefully in the next week or so i will know more.

Stuart.

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03 May 2012 22:19 #23 by BlueRam (Sean Crowe)
sounds like u will have fry very soon just one thing im thinkin is when ever mine spawn they dont lose the colour

but one thing i will say about kribs and i think it has being said befor on this kribs are one off the most and best caring perents for there fry so make sure u watch it very closely it is great

o and Congrats Daddy :laugh: :laugh:

Sean

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