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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

Peruvian angelfish fry

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07 Jun 2013 18:39 #1 by anglecichlid (ciaran hogan)
?

This is a fraction of what was spawned
Enjoy

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08 Jun 2013 00:04 #2 by JohnH (John)
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Very good - be nice to watch these progress (please).

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20 Jun 2013 20:31 #3 by anglecichlid (ciaran hogan)

Coming on now,
Fed on bbs twice a day and starting to take crushed flake
Looks like I may need to cull a few :(

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20 Jun 2013 22:49 #4 by JohnH (John)
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Sorry,
It's telling me 'This Video Is Private' - might it be possible to make it 'Public'?

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21 Jun 2013 05:20 #5 by anglecichlid (ciaran hogan)
Sorry forgot to tag as public should work now

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21 Jun 2013 09:25 #6 by JohnH (John)
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Thanks for changing it to 'public' and for posting it.

They're coming along nicely now.

I know that culling is a very emotive issue, but it's pretty much what would happen in the wild - 'survival of the fittest' - that sort of thing.

Don't be too hasty in making judgements as some are a little slower to develop than the 'quickest' ones - just concentrate on the obviously-deformed ones and give the slower-growing ones the opportunity to 'catch up'.

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21 Jun 2013 10:03 #7 by anglecichlid (ciaran hogan)
Cheers john,
I've noticed a few that are almost see through and yellowish in color
Like they have no pigment as aposed to the rest that are showing faint stripes
Any idea on these?

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21 Jun 2013 11:06 #8 by JohnH (John)
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I would suspect these ones you talk of could be going to develop into 'Gold' Angels - loss of pigment is often a sign of much inbreeding (as also happens with Albinos and 'Long-Finned' variants - and not confined to Angels either) so my suspicion is that your parents were not quite Wild Fish.
However, I'm not a geneticist - far from it - so would welcome observations from any member with better knowledge of this subject for clarification.

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21 Jun 2013 11:13 #9 by anglecichlid (ciaran hogan)
Not being wild is one option I would consider with reserve,
I paid quite a lot for these on the pretense that they were wild!
The other option would be if they were related would this also be a cause?

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21 Jun 2013 11:48 #10 by JohnH (John)
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I think IanM knows a bit about this sort of thing so it might be best to hear his views, but if the adults are siblings that might well be a valid contribution.

The thing is - as ever - a shop can only depend upon the sincerity of their supplier - they are provided with 'wild' fish at 'wild fish' prices and they have to take this as a sign of it being the truth.

I fear not all suppliers are quite as 'upfront' in the honesty department as we might wish them to be.

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21 Jun 2013 12:16 #11 by anglecichlid (ciaran hogan)
Cheers again john and thanks for your input I hope it's not the latter!
Hopefully Ian drops a word in and sheds some light on the situation.
On another note if the fry look anything like the parents in which there was an agreement that they
Were stunners,il be a happy man.

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21 Jun 2013 13:02 #12 by JohnH (John)
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You're right there - I remember your picture of the adults and they are lovely looking fish.

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21 Jun 2013 13:11 #13 by fishmad1234 (Craig Coyle)
fantastic video mate.


did you do anything to induce breeding or did they just do it them selfs.


are they wild yeah



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21 Jun 2013 13:22 #14 by anglecichlid (ciaran hogan)
Il be honest I've had angelfish for two weeks and they have spawned for me
With the parents of these I've had them for a year upwards if I remember correctly
Before they have spawned,
All I do is feed well on a varied diet and water changes twice weekly
Hope that helps!

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21 Jun 2013 14:02 #15 by anglecichlid (ciaran hogan)
Sorry to answer your question I'm not sure!
They were sold as wild caught and bought as wild caught
But as john pointed out you just never know!
I'd like to think they are but that doesn't make them wild!

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21 Jun 2013 14:10 #16 by fishmad1234 (Craig Coyle)
wild caught or not still a great achievement to have successfully bred them :)



any pictures of the pair


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21 Jun 2013 14:26 #17 by anglecichlid (ciaran hogan)
www.irishfishkeepers.com/index.php/forum...80-my-community-tank
There in there the female hasn't great markings but the male is well marked

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21 Jun 2013 14:31 #18 by fishmad1234 (Craig Coyle)
lovely looking fish



great finnage and all round great looking fish




great job :)


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21 Jun 2013 14:35 #19 by anglecichlid (ciaran hogan)
Cheers Craig!

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21 Jun 2013 16:34 - 21 Jun 2013 16:36 #20 by derek (Derek Doyle)
Just had a look at the video on the other thread and the tank and fish are really nice. There appears to be two strains of silver or wild type angels, two of them are the more slender altum looking type, (similar to the strain that arabu had?). These slender and tall fish are beauties and if you have spawned these then the fry should be crackers. The fry in the video are of greatly varying sizes and it is best to cull the really tiny ones and any with bent fins and then separate the rest by size to separate containers if possible. If they are crowded they will lack quality and the finnage (the best feature) will be stunted. Anyway well done and good luck with the raising.
Keep putting up videos as the fry progress.
ps. be aware if culling that males progress much quicker than females and all of the very biggest will likely be male.

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21 Jun 2013 17:09 #21 by anglecichlid (ciaran hogan)
No flys on you,there arabus Santas unfortunately there not the ones that spawned its the other ones
I have around 50 in a 140l at the min with two sponge filters
And a hob,I'm not going to cull untill I can tell for sure what's deformed
Or not,
Anyway thanks for the input much appreciated.

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27 Jun 2013 23:48 #22 by anglecichlid (ciaran hogan)

Starting to get there bars now! B)
Enjoy!

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