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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

Leleupi fry eaten by parents

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15 Jul 2015 12:54 #1 by helix8008 (Tomas Novak)
Yesterday I have found leleupi fry in my main tank so to increase survival rate I have decided to move them to smaller 100l tank today. I have moved both fry which was still in decoration pot and parents. Fry was hatched but still had egg attached so couldn't swim.
After few min I checked how they get on and found out that all fry has been eaten by parents.

It's first time I breed leleupi and had this pair only for few weeks. It happened me before with other cichlids so I have separated parents in some cases. I'm not sure if this was pairs first spawn or no, which could also explain the increased stress.

I have read 2 different opinions obout leleupi breeding. First that parents should be separated from fry once hatched, and second that fry is doing better with parents until they are juvenile.

I will keep pair in small tank for 2-3 weeks to see if they spawn again.

Any opinion or experience is welcomed.
Thanks

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15 Jul 2015 22:33 #2 by JohnH (John)
I think you made a fatal error in moving the embryos and parents.
Maybe you would have done better to have moved the pot into a container (preferably filtered, but at least lightly aerated) and left the parents where they were. It's asking a lot of some Cichlids to resume parental duties after a change to a different tank. I have seen it happen with adult Discus, but that really was the exception rather than the rule.
I suggest - for what it's worth - that you follow your plan of leaving the pair isolated and when they spawn again leave them with the eggs/fry to see how that works out.
If this fails first time around then let them spawn again - sometimes it take a few 'gos' to get it right.
But, if this fails too many times you might want to remove the cave and eggs and try hatching them artificially.

I hope you crack it eventually.

John

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16 Jul 2015 07:58 #3 by helix8008 (Tomas Novak)
I have moved both as I saw guy on YouTube doing same without issue. I remember I could move some of my cichlids after spawning, especially those more experienced parents, but I also had to split some from fry.

Yea I think it was just too much stress. Will see how they do with second fry, I will update post then.

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