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Hi,
John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.
I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.
With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.
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Rummy Nose Tetra problem
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03 Aug 2011 13:28 #1
by Nephin (Patrick OMalley)
Hi folks.
I added 8 rummynose tetras to our community tank last week. So far 5 have "disappeared" so I assume something killed them and they must have been eaten by some of their tank mates.
The tank is 190 litres. In it we have:
6 Neon Tetras
1 Serpae Tetra
2 Pimelodus pictus
1 three spot gourami
1 pearl gourami
1 opaline gourami
2 orange spot pleco (added the same time as the rummy nose)
The water parameters are
pH: 7.2
High range pH: 8.0
Ammonia: 0
Nitrite: 0
Nitrate: 5.0
I have my suspicions that the serpae tetra is the problem. Previously I lost 5 serpaes and I think he may have bullied them. However when they died there was a body left. With the Rummy Nose there isn't any remains so it looks like they have vanished

Anybody have an idea at what may be killing the Rummy Nose?
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03 Aug 2011 14:25 - 03 Aug 2011 14:26 #2
by JohnH (John)
My suspicions would be towards the Pictus, they can be demons at eating smaller fish after dark (when they become even more active).
Strange, though, that they haven't eaten your Neons...
John
Location:
N. Tipp
We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl - year after year.
ITFS member.
It's a long way to Tipperary.
Last edit: 03 Aug 2011 14:26 by
JohnH (John). Reason: Alteration
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03 Aug 2011 14:26 #3
by Nephin (Patrick OMalley)
what size are these gouramis (I suspect they are)?
chris
About 2-3 inches.
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03 Aug 2011 14:28 #4
by Nephin (Patrick OMalley)
My suspicions would be towards the Pictus, they can be demons at eating smaller fish after dark (when they become even more active).
Strange, though, that they haven't eaten your Neons...
John
The Pictus never bothered the Neons and they have been in the tank together for a good while now.
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03 Aug 2011 15:34 #5
by igmillichip (ian millichip)
It could be the pictus; it could also be the gouramis (3-spot and opaline being key suspects).
The pictus may not discriminate about what it eats (ie it could have equally gone for the neons); but the gouramis would be bullies and may decide to pick on something specific if it happens to be habiting somewhere they do not want habited.
Serpae can also be a pain with harassing certain fish (although I wouldn't have instantly placed the rummy noses at the top of the list....the gourami feeler fins might have been a better choice).
On the otherhand, maybe the rummynose simply died en-masse (for lots of reasons) and the plecs and others quickly finished off the dead bodies (it wouldn't take long for a rummy nose body to be an ex-body) or the bodies simply went down with plants or behind decor and rotted.
If one rummynose died, and then the others wanted a pecking of their dead buddy.....then a rotten meal could be a quick death of the rummynoses (yep...we are grasping at straws without further detail).
If eating dead buddies is a cause of death, then I would keep a careful eye on the gouramis as they are also keen to find a dead fish and nibble at it.
ian
Irish Tropical Fish Society (ITFS) Member.
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05 Aug 2011 10:12 #6
by Nephin (Patrick OMalley)
It seems the Pictus is the prime suspect!
I've lost two Neons since. I only notice them missing in the morning so its during the night that they are eaten.
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05 Aug 2011 12:11 #7
by JohnH (John)
Hmm,
Looks like you've found the culprit.
As mentioned, they can be very predatory fish alright.
Can you isolate it to find out for certain?
John
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We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl - year after year.
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05 Aug 2011 14:02 #8
by Nephin (Patrick OMalley)
Hmm,
Looks like you've found the culprit.
As mentioned, they can be very predatory fish alright.
Can you isolate it to find out for certain?
John
I'm afraid I have no way of isolating them.
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05 Aug 2011 19:07 #9
by sheag35 (Seamus Gillespie)
tend to go with the pictus as the culprit
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06 Aug 2011 08:38 #10
by Pat (Pat Coogan)
I kept Pictus years ago and couldnt keep any small tetras in the tank. One reason he hit the rummy noses first is that they tend to stay nearer the bottom of the tank while the neons stay higher.(mine do anyway especially when the lights are off) Now that he has a taste for fish watch out!
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