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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

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14 Aug 2011 11:14 #1 by smitas5 (Marius Smitas)
anyone have any advice how to recognize if cardinal tetras are sick?
I have 10 of them and 5 of them just not growing.. member of the forum sujested they might be sick and miss out on food because of that.

they do taste it, but spit it out.

water: ~7Ph, 80tds for a week now, temp 25C

I will be trying different food in the next couple days

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14 Aug 2011 20:30 #2 by ceech (Desmond Gaynor)
Have you checked your water for ammonia and no2 ?

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14 Aug 2011 20:35 #3 by smitas5 (Marius Smitas)
yes, couple days ago all were at 0.. I change water often inuff..

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14 Aug 2011 20:42 #4 by stretnik (stretnik)
Replied by stretnik (stretnik) on topic Re: is my cardinal tetra sick?
To avoid losing them, try some live food, Brine Shrimp, Daphnia etc, when they get a bit more robust, try weaning them off the live stuff.

Kev.

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14 Aug 2011 20:46 #5 by smitas5 (Marius Smitas)
I noticed 2 of the cardinals have some white bumps on them.. like peace of daphnia stuck..
one cardinal has it on the chin
other one has it above the eye and on the side fin.

Should I treat them in someway or this might go away?

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14 Aug 2011 20:52 #6 by stretnik (stretnik)
Replied by stretnik (stretnik) on topic Re: is my cardinal tetra sick?
A difficult question but necessary, can you take a Photo?

Kev

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14 Aug 2011 22:19 #7 by smitas5 (Marius Smitas)
OK, I gave cardinals frozen daphnia and they did eat, so maybe the weight problem will be sorted this way..
I was looking at them some of them look a bit unhealthy..
here are some pictures (first pictures are of same fish, the last 2 are of second fish):

















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14 Aug 2011 22:23 #8 by smitas5 (Marius Smitas)
as you see in the last 2 pictures, the fish has some strange white winckle in the eye and the fin is weard shape too.

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15 Aug 2011 15:13 - 15 Aug 2011 15:19 #9 by smitas5 (Marius Smitas)
this morning I noticed 2 out of 4 clowns with white spots too.

will I raise temp by 2-3 degC and add salt or I shouldn't?
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15 Aug 2011 17:43 #10 by Luap (Paul O'Connell)
Sounds (and looks) like it could be white spot, also known as "ich" but it's hard to tell from the photographs. The fact that the Clown Loaches are now showing similar symptoms would possibly suggest to me that it is white spot as they can be susceptible to it. You can SLOWLY raise the temperature, over a few days, to 29/30 degrees Centigrade (as this speeds up the life cycle of the parasite) and add a propietary white spot treatment such as WS3 or protozin. I would do a water change beforehand. These treatments tend to stain ornaments so you may want to remove them first. Be careful with the treatment with regard to the Clown Loaches and other scaleless fish. I would try half the recommended dosage first. Having said that I ended up using a full strength dosage in my tank, which had 2 Clown Loaches, and all fish survived OK. I had to do this as the white spot wasn't clearing up. Some of the experts may be able to give further advice. Good Luck!

Luap

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15 Aug 2011 18:03 #11 by smitas5 (Marius Smitas)
Thanks, I did change 20% of water and starting to raise itnow to 29C or so.. tomorrow might go to the shop and get some medicine for them..
they are scraping walls yet..

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16 Aug 2011 10:57 #12 by Jambomac (James McConville)
I think its cotton mouth as second tetra looks like his mouth might have rotten a bit already this is actually potentially worse than ich lets hope i'm wrong.
www.tropicalfishtanksonline.com/treating...isease-mouth-fungus/

I did notice this on a lot cichlids in a local big petshop in finglas although i don't think staff noticed or know much about fish to be honest.

Have you had them for long and what sort of shop did you get them from?

“A wise man can learn more from a foolish question than a fool can learn from a wise answer.”

quote Bruce Lee

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16 Aug 2011 12:08 #13 by igmillichip (ian millichip)
I'm having difficulty seeing the detail in the picture on my work screen, so will have to look on my screen at home as my eye-sight is worsening.

Are the pictures of one or two cardinals?

I am a bit concerned over the last image of the cardinals: it is difficult to make out if that is a congenital disorder, or an acquired defect (eg from diet), or a disease. If it is a disease state then that is a priority case for treatment.

ian

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16 Aug 2011 15:38 #14 by smitas5 (Marius Smitas)
Hi Ian, the last 2 pictures is cardinal no 2, the rest is cardinal no 1.

Temperature is at 28 now, fish feels better, tho the simptoms still without any changes. No driving to seahorse

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16 Aug 2011 16:22 #15 by Mike53 (Michael)
I think it could be fungus on the mouth and White spot as well. That aside, they are a great set of photos of the cardinals, you should enter the August photo comp!

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16 Aug 2011 20:07 #16 by smitas5 (Marius Smitas)
I did enter with different photo tho

I was recommended to go with WS3.. its all nicely green now :D

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08 Sep 2011 19:58 #17 by smitas5 (Marius Smitas)
Anyone has any ideas re this?
I treated the tank for white spot and I did get rid of white spots on couple clowns, but these lumps are still on the now 3 cardinals. The one with worm in the eye, eye is bigger now..

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03 Oct 2011 19:14 #18 by Sean (Fr. Jack)
Hi the clown Loach did have white spot but in none of the photos of the carninals did they deomstrate white spot, salt is not a good idea for either loaches or tetras, the teras have serous tail damage (not fin rot ) this is due to aggrsssion, qes. what other species are swimming in the aquarium? the stress of aggression has causes secondary fungus infection on the lower jaw, not life treatning if the aggressor is removed and the tank is treated with malchite green and formalin (commercial prepered brand Sera Cosapur @60% dosage due to malchite green intorantant loches etc.

That would be a ecumenical matter!!!
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