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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

Can you do too many water changes?

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05 Oct 2011 11:38 #1 by PompeyBill (Killian Walshe)
I was just wondering if there is such thing as overkill with regards to water changes? Can you do too many? Basically, due to being flat out in work, doing water changes on the tank went on the backburner. I lost one of my beloved pitbull plecs so decided I needed to kop on. I have since being doing a 1 bucket change per night. Its a 155l tank and the bucket is 12L (not quite full so roughly 11L of change) so its not exactly a huge amount but just wondering could this have any ill effects, or hypothetically could larger changes frequently be a bad thing??

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05 Oct 2011 11:52 #2 by smitas5 (Marius Smitas)
I think it depends on the water in the bucket.
Is it straight from the tap?
10% water change daily is a bit too much, but shouldn't harm the fish if it's pretreated with some sort of conditioner.
What other fish do you have up there?

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05 Oct 2011 11:58 #3 by PompeyBill (Killian Walshe)

I think it depends on the water in the bucket.
Is it straight from the tap?
10% water change daily is a bit too much, but shouldn't harm the fish if it's pretreated with some sort of conditioner.
What other fish do you have up there?


Well kind of straight from the tap, treated with Easy Life Fluid Filter Medium before going into the tank. I have 2 GBR, danios, cardinal tetra, rummynose tetra, and a few cory and a molly from my first tank. There is 1 pitbull left after originally having 2. Its a bit of a mishmash of fish that I bought for my original 54L tank and then ones that I bought when I got the new one.

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05 Oct 2011 12:10 #4 by smitas5 (Marius Smitas)
What are your water parameters?

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05 Oct 2011 12:27 #5 by igmillichip (ian millichip)
If you do the water changes correctly, then I can't see there a problem in doing as many as you can fit into a day.
But, it does depend upon the fish.

In the days of having a bigger system to run and the younger bonesto do it, there would be many tanks (especially discus) that would get 70 to 90% water changes per day everyday.
Some tanks were on a constant water-change system.

There would, however, be a few fish that water changes may trigger rapid aging (killies being one such group).

Where you do get dangers is not doing the water changes properly or in leaving it ages and then doing massive water changes.

ian

Irish Tropical Fish Society (ITFS) Member.

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05 Oct 2011 13:00 #6 by ceech (Desmond Gaynor)
I do lots of water changes but the thing i find is to keep them regular and to the same time and day.(Once a week should be fine for you or else 2 30% water changes would be fine)Depends on filters that you have and how well stocked your tank is ect.
I do water changes on my fry tanks everyday 50%.If i had the option i would have auto change on allot of my tanks for fresh water system all day everyday :-)

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05 Oct 2011 13:10 #7 by PompeyBill (Killian Walshe)

What are your water parameters?


Haven't tested them in a couple of days Smitas and in work now, so not sure to be honest. Last time I checked they seemed to be fine (I know Ian will give out to me for saying that!, but mean that Ammonia, nitrate & nitrite are within acceptable levels) Also should mention that I have a Fluval 205, Fluval U3 internal & Eheim Power Filter 200 internal filter on the tank as well. I am using them to provide extra filtration (obviously!) and also circulation to get rid of dead spots in the tank.

If you do the water changes correctly, then I can't see there a problem in doing as many as you can fit into a day.
But, it does depend upon the fish.

In the days of having a bigger system to run and the younger bonesto do it, there would be many tanks (especially discus) that would get 70 to 90% water changes per day everyday.
Some tanks were on a constant water-change system.

There would, however, be a few fish that water changes may trigger rapid aging (killies being one such group).

Where you do get dangers is not doing the water changes properly or in leaving it ages and then doing massive water changes.

ian


Thanks for the reply Ian. I figured as per most things it depends on many things - the fish you have, the tank you have etc.. Can you see any issues with the stock that I currently have Ian (mentioned above) with regards to the rapid aging?

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05 Oct 2011 15:01 #8 by igmillichip (ian millichip)

What are your water parameters?


Haven't tested them in a couple of days Smitas and in work now, so not sure to be honest. Last time I checked they seemed to be fine (I know Ian will give out to me for saying that!, but mean that Ammonia, nitrate & nitrite are within acceptable levels) Also should mention that I have a Fluval 205, Fluval U3 internal & Eheim Power Filter 200 internal filter on the tank as well. I am using them to provide extra filtration (obviously!) and also circulation to get rid of dead spots in the tank.

If you do the water changes correctly, then I can't see there a problem in doing as many as you can fit into a day.
But, it does depend upon the fish.

In the days of having a bigger system to run and the younger bonesto do it, there would be many tanks (especially discus) that would get 70 to 90% water changes per day everyday.
Some tanks were on a constant water-change system.

There would, however, be a few fish that water changes may trigger rapid aging (killies being one such group).

Where you do get dangers is not doing the water changes properly or in leaving it ages and then doing massive water changes.

ian


Thanks for the reply Ian. I figured as per most things it depends on many things - the fish you have, the tank you have etc.. Can you see any issues with the stock that I currently have Ian (mentioned above) with regards to the rapid aging?


I don't see anything in your tank that would get stressed over you opening the top everyday (some big fish do), and those fish would do quite nicely with frequent water changes.
There is a different between a mature system and old manky water. You can still do very regular water changes and keep your system mature.
Now, I wouldn't recommend just going out and doing the massive water changes that I used to do as that does take quite some equipment to do to make sure that there is as little disturbance to the fish and that you can remove all toxic substances from the water.

ian

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