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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

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04 Dec 2011 15:56 #1 by john gannon (John Gannon)
yes its that time of year when the house is being painted for the bearded fatman,ive only got the sitting room and kitchen left.this is were the problem is ,the fish tank.water based paints i dont worry to much about but varnish and gloss are [excuse the pun ]a different kettle of fish.i generally cover tank and cut open a few onions to try and help .has anyone any other ideas that might help stop fumes entering water and doing damage
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04 Dec 2011 18:03 - 04 Dec 2011 18:21 #2 by keitho (keith o reilly)
Alright John
how are keeping
I find that a saucer off vinegar kills the fumes
of gloss . Hope this helps
I have a bit mote painting for you here
keitho

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04 Dec 2011 19:48 #3 by john gannon (John Gannon)
howya keith
im keeping well except for all this bloody painting ,listen ill lend ye me brushes when im finnished
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04 Dec 2011 20:50 #4 by keitho (keith o reilly)
No thanks John
I hate painting I would rather dig up the back
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05 Dec 2011 13:22 #5 by Melander (Andreas Melander)
Have you got going with the painting? If so can you see any effect on the water or fish?


Just curious as I saw the damage paint can do to a fish tank, although you seem prepared for it compared to myself.

Melander

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05 Dec 2011 23:19 - 05 Dec 2011 23:20 #6 by john gannon (John Gannon)
no havnt got going in the room with the tank in it yet,im at a bit of a crossroads with a decision on whether to move fish out to shed for a week or just cover it and hope for the best,its a fairly big tank so moving tank and sump and all out is not possible. im going to have to empty some water out and just move it about a foot to paint behind it.
thanks for your interest
john

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06 Dec 2011 15:55 #7 by BillG (Bill Gray)
Replied by BillG (Bill Gray) on topic Re: PAINTING
Hi John,

The most critical thing is to avoid getting the paint fumes into the tank water. The paint fumes contain various chemicals which can harm or kill the fish :( you can get low VOC paints which would be worth the trouble as they contain much lower levels of the solvents etc that give off the harmful fumes and therefore pose a much lower risk. Even with that, I would recommend having the room very well ventilated during the job and for as long as possible afterwards too. This will minimise the amount of paint fumes in the air and therefore minimise the risk.

No harm to think about disconnecting any air pumps you have feeding the tank as these will ensure the fumes are fed into the water and bubbled through the water giving a much greater chance of dissolving harmful chemicals in the water. It could be worth moving air pumps to another room and using longer airlines if you require the use of them.

Also, if your tank is not too heavily stocked, it could be worth adjusting filters, filter / sump returns etc to minimise the surface agitation for 24 to 48 hours around the time you paint. This will further reduce the amount of toxins that can dissolve in the water. However it will also reduce the amount of dissolved oxygen in the water, hence the comment about the tank not being heavily stocked. If you do with this approach, obviously you would need to shut off any Co2 feed to the tank too!

Regards,

Bill.

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06 Dec 2011 18:40 - 06 Dec 2011 18:41 #8 by stretnik (stretnik)
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Spot on Bill, it's the absorption of or the laying of an oily filament on the Water's surface rather than the odours or smells in the Room that are a problem. I don't think you can afford to be flippant given that you could lose an entire Tank of Fish very quickly under these circumstances.

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