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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

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14 Aug 2013 16:30 #1 by anglecichlid (ciaran hogan)
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Alright lads,
I'm in unknown territory here,
I purchased 8 l144s last week 4 in one shop and 4 in another
Had a tank ready crawling with algae right beside a window
About two days ago I had lost to over night from the same batch
I could tell because that set of plecos were slightly smaller and a lighter
Shade compared to the other set!
Anyway didn't think anything of it as I put it down to the stress of the move.
So today I was looking in and one of the smaller plecos was on a piece of bogwood
And I could see he was peppered with crusty white spot and I only noticed
On the fins first and at a closer look it looked like a bad dose
So my question is this is there a med I can use to treat the tank?
The other four are fine and I cant see the sixth but if it's ich I may need ti
Treat the tank!
Anyone with a aquarium can keep fish,
But it takes real skill to be a fish keeper,


And it's spongeBob,
SpongeBob lives in a pineapple under the sea
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14 Aug 2013 17:45 #2 by ger310 (Ger .)
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Alright Ciaran,gradually up the temperature a few degree's and increase o2 levels,that should do the trick,but if not,eSHa EXIT I always found did the job

Dangle a bit of cucumber in there and that sixth dude wont be long in coming out.

Ger
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14 Aug 2013 18:23 #3 by anglecichlid (ciaran hogan)
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Cheers Ger
Sounds good,
Would that be a full or half dose of the esha?
Anyone with a aquarium can keep fish,
But it takes real skill to be a fish keeper,


And it's spongeBob,
SpongeBob lives in a pineapple under the sea
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14 Aug 2013 22:11 #4 by Gonefishy (Brian oneill)
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Protozin by Waterlife has always done the trick for me. Clear instructions and always the right result. No more white spot.....eSHA also a very good product. Don't worry as this will fix it,

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15 Aug 2013 08:51 #5 by JohnH (John)
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Alright lads,
I'm in unknown territory here,
I purchased 8 l144s last week 4 in one shop and 4 in another
Had a tank ready crawling with algae right beside a window
About two days ago I had lost to over night from the same batch
I could tell because that set of plecos were slightly smaller and a lighter
Shade compared to the other set!
Anyway didn't think anything of it as I put it down to the stress of the move.
So today I was looking in and one of the smaller plecos was on a piece of bogwood
And I could see he was peppered with crusty white spot and I only noticed
On the fins first and at a closer look it looked like a bad dose
So my question is this is there a med I can use to treat the tank?
The other four are fine and I cant see the sixth but if it's ich I may need ti
Treat the tank!


Just an afterthought here - is it definitely whitespot? When you mention it being 'crusty' gives me a picture in my mind of - just perhaps - velvet disease.
The problem with that is, as with whitespot, if it gets so advanced as to reach the gills then it can prove fatal.
Protozin, as mentioned, will be a remedy for this (I've never felt the need to try any other medications such as eSha but am told that it's good too) and - if it turns out to be velvet then the Protozin will work better if the tank can be made dark (not just turning the lights off, I remember a scenario some years back where a member here had an outbreak in a tank with quite valuable Ancistrus and he had the whole tank 'blacked-out'. I'll try to find the posts and add a link here.
As usual, if at all possible a picture would help.
John
Location:
N. Tipp

We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl - year after year.


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15 Aug 2013 09:49 #6 by anglecichlid (ciaran hogan)
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Cheers john,
Turns out I had a bottle of Esha exit there,
So I treated the tank this morning,
As far as I know Esha treats velvet also,
So my fingers are crossed on both hands!
Unfortunately I made a critical mistake of taking coconut shell
With anubias on that had loads of algae from my apistos tank put it in with the plecos
When they done the bis on it I returned back to the apistos.
School boy error I know,
So I had to treat the apistos also!
Anyone with a aquarium can keep fish,
But it takes real skill to be a fish keeper,


And it's spongeBob,
SpongeBob lives in a pineapple under the sea
BLANCHARDSTOWN

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15 Aug 2013 09:58 #7 by anglecichlid (ciaran hogan)
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Also,
Just want to clarify that no blame is on any shop for selling dodgey
Stock,
As I understand ich is a pathogen and can be present in aquariums
With no ill effect?
And it's the stress of the move that can bring on effects?
Anyone with a aquarium can keep fish,
But it takes real skill to be a fish keeper,


And it's spongeBob,
SpongeBob lives in a pineapple under the sea
BLANCHARDSTOWN

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15 Aug 2013 10:42 #8 by paulv (paul vickers)
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my experience with esha 2000, last weekend i noticed one of my adult feather fin synodontis cat fish flicking against some rock in the tank, even i could not see any signs of ich/white spot on the body i treated the tank with esha 2000 for three days.all seemed well on day 3, all the fish eating very well, but on the fourth day my adult female golden cobra snake head, shes about 17inchs long, was behaving very unwell staying upside down on the bottom and struggling to reach the surface to get air. thinking it maybe swim bladder infection i contacted ian from aquatic village, my closest lfs for advise. i took her out of the tank and into a container with about 10L of tank water i got aquarium salt from ian and used half the usual dose of salt as channa species are sensitive to salt, i also added a 2inch air stone and within an hour she was looking much better, i left her in the barrel for about 16 hours and put her back in the main tank and all is well now with her. i did lots of online research on her behavior and swim bladder infections but nothing fitted, even ian was baffled and the only conclusion we came to was my snake head had a bad reaction to the esha 2000. my word of caution is, if any body is using any meds in their tank to watch your fish very closely as a bad reaction to meds does occur.

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15 Aug 2013 10:54 #9 by anglecichlid (ciaran hogan)
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Nice one Paul,
Good to know,
I'm using Esha exit at the min
I'm not sure if Esha 2000 is the same
I shall google it now and have a look.
Il keep a good eye on everything when I get home.
Anyone with a aquarium can keep fish,
But it takes real skill to be a fish keeper,


And it's spongeBob,
SpongeBob lives in a pineapple under the sea
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15 Aug 2013 11:17 #10 by CrustyCrab (Peter Biddulph)
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When you mention it being 'crusty'
John


Blamed again ...........

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15 Aug 2013 11:20 #11 by anglecichlid (ciaran hogan)
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When you mention it being 'crusty'
John


Blamed again ...........

Up to your old tricks again!
:laugh:
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But it takes real skill to be a fish keeper,


And it's spongeBob,
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15 Aug 2013 19:00 #12 by anglecichlid (ciaran hogan)
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Thanks for all the input lads,
All stock doing well so far,
active,eating well after a full dose this morning.
Anyone with a aquarium can keep fish,
But it takes real skill to be a fish keeper,


And it's spongeBob,
SpongeBob lives in a pineapple under the sea
BLANCHARDSTOWN

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20 Aug 2013 20:15 #13 by anglecichlid (ciaran hogan)
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Well I may be very quick to tell everyone about successes!
So it would be unfair not to mention failures just as quick!
Lost another 3 today,
There's one there that seems to be unaffected and remaining
2 seem to have a bad dose,
Peppered all over with white flakey spots
Back and bellies plus fins.
Have to say I'm gutted now,hate losing fish.
Anyone with a aquarium can keep fish,
But it takes real skill to be a fish keeper,


And it's spongeBob,
SpongeBob lives in a pineapple under the sea
BLANCHARDSTOWN

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20 Aug 2013 21:19 #14 by JohnH (John)
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Fair play for your honesty, I'm truly sorry you've had these losses. Let's hope this proves to be the end of your disappointing spell.

John
Location:
N. Tipp

We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl - year after year.


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21 Aug 2013 20:47 #15 by des (des)
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Sorry to hear that Ciaran
I hate to loose fish, nightmare, it's a pity the treatment didn't work out for You...





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22 Aug 2013 04:38 #16 by anglecichlid (ciaran hogan)
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Cheers des
I have two left from the 8 now and they
Seem to be doing well so I hope they survive!
Anyone with a aquarium can keep fish,
But it takes real skill to be a fish keeper,


And it's spongeBob,
SpongeBob lives in a pineapple under the sea
BLANCHARDSTOWN

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22 Aug 2013 10:16 - 22 Aug 2013 10:22 #17 by paulv (paul vickers)
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did you try salt treatment?, ive used it in the past and it worked for me. you have to use proper aquarium salt as its natural and does not contain anti caking agents like shop bought salt. i use one teaspoon of salt per gallon of tank water and raise the water temp to about 29c and increase the air as much as possible, i lifted the filter return pipe over the water level to create a strong splash on the water surface. after the treatment do a 40 to 50% water change.
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22 Aug 2013 18:13 #18 by Fishowner (Gavin fishowner)
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Can you pm me where you got them?

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